This is the best DT class in years. DT and RB are easily the best positions in this draft and we should capitalize on them.
Derrick Harmon
Walter Nolen
Darius Alexander
TJ Sanders
Josh Farmer
Ty Robinson
Omar Norman-Lott
This isn’t even counting a lot of other talented guys that I don’t have listed here like Tyleik Williams or Alfred Collins. Hell there’s guys in rd 3 and 4 that I like too. Vernon Broughton, Shemar Turner or CJ West.
**** me. Might just have to double the **** up gents [Reply]
It would be mismanagement of epic proportions not to take one by the end of the 3rd round.
I'm not going to pound my fist and say take one in the first or even the 2nd, but at some point on day 2, you have to take one.
I get it that Veach has been able to patch together the position with below-average turds next to Jones for years but this is a chance to give the position strength and depth. [Reply]
Agree with others, it'd be negligent not to use this draft to improve the DL. There have been a couple of occasions on the simulators I've seen most of the DT talent dry up by our 2nd pick, and I've ended up going for a DE and later-round DT. I don't think that's impossible.
In pretty much every mock I've done though, I've ended up taking a DT AND DE in the first 3 picks, sometimes all 3 picks have been DL. I absolutely hated watching our DL last year, it needs improvement across the board. The lack of speed and bend at DE, and the lack of...anything at DT, outside of Jones, was painful to watch.
In some ways it's a shame this isn't an offense heavy draft. I still think that should be the identity of this team, and as bad as the DL was, it wasn't half as bad as our entire offense. But we've got to take what's there - rebuild the DL and RB rooms, and if we can fill in any gaps elsewhere, like CB, great. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
We’re definitely taking DL, I’m partial to guys that can play both DE and DL as a solution similar to Jones.
That's why I feel getting Omenihu back on the roster is kind of a big deal. Not that we shouldn't look for and draft one of those guys, I just feel Omenihu's ability to play up and down the line is overlooked. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
That's why I feel getting Omenihu back on the roster is kind of a big deal. Not that we shouldn't look for and draft one of those guys, I just feel Omenihu's ability to play up and down the line is overlooked.
Overlooked bc he was injured all season, if he wants big money after sitting all year I think we have to let him walk.
There’s just no cap space right now, we need a creative deal with Smith and a Mahomes restructure or we’re dead in the water in FA. [Reply]
Two DTs that are interesting to me for later in the draft.
Vernon Broughton 6’5” 310 a penetrating DT that has good strength to hold up in the run game but can get good penetration on the pass game. Has 35” arms which is good for hand fighting and getting in the passing lanes. He could be had with one of 3rd round picks and a solid back up to Chris Jones.
Warren Bronson 6’5” 315 a big physical DT. Great in the run game. Showed good athleticism at the combine but it didn’t always show up in games. Has 34”+ arms. Could be a solid run stuffing DT to develop next to Jones. Could be had with our 4th round pick. Or even better if we could trade back into the 5th round [Reply]
Originally Posted by Palangi:
Two DTs that are interesting to me for later in the draft.
Vernon Broughton 6’5” 310 a penetrating DT that has good strength to hold up in the run game but can get good penetration on the pass game. Has 35” arms which is good for hand fighting and getting in the passing lanes. He could be had with one of 3rd round picks and a solid back up to Chris Jones.
Warren Bronson 6’5” 315 a big physical DT. Great in the run game. Showed good athleticism at the combine but it didn’t always show up in games. Has 34”+ arms. Could be a solid run stuffing DT to develop next to Jones. Could be had with our 4th round pick. Or even better if we could trade back into the 5th round
Broughton played really well this past year.
I'm assuming you mean Warren Brinson from Georgia? I always like guys that get off the ball quickly, and he does. Definitely needs development but he could be a late-round flier.
I really like Ty Robinson from Nebraska. I know it's cliche, but he reminds me quite a bit of JJ Watt. Watt was just a tad longer in the arms and a little bit more athletic but the play style and the overall physical traits are similar. Not saying he'll become a JJ Watt, because I don't think he's that. I do think he'll be a really disruptive DT. Would be more of a 3T rotational piece with Jones than a compliment though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Broughton played really well this past year.
I'm assuming you mean Warren Brinson from Georgia? I always like guys that get off the ball quickly, and he does. Definitely needs development but he could be a late-round flier.
I really like Ty Robinson from Nebraska. I know it's cliche, but he reminds me quite a bit of JJ Watt. Watt was just a tad longer in the arms and a little bit more athletic but the play style and the overall physical traits are similar. Not saying he'll become a JJ Watt, because I don't think he's that. I do think he'll be a really disruptive DT. Would be more of a 3T rotational piece with Jones than a compliment though.
Yes I meant Brinson. Phone auto corrected.
I agree I like Robinson a well. Was just bringing two guys up that hadn’t really been talked about [Reply]
It's, sort of, the Philly model. They've taken Davis and Carter early and surrounded them with other nasty rushers, typically also from Georgia or Bama. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
It would be mismanagement of epic proportions not to take one by the end of the 3rd round.
I'm not going to pound my fist and say take one in the first or even the 2nd, but at some point on day 2, you have to take one.
I get it that Veach has been able to patch together the position with below-average turds next to Jones for years but this is a chance to give the position strength and depth.
I agree. We need to upgrade the talent next to Chris jones and start thinking about life with out Chris jones. It has been put off long enough now [Reply]