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Nzoner's Game Room>McDermott chasing a point early was dumb
jerryaldini 11:08 PM 01-27-2025
McDermott going for 2 just because a penalty gave them the short extra point wound up cascading to a 3 point swing in our favor. They fail on another try and then it incentivised us to get a successful 2 for a 7 point lead in the 4th quarter. It showed their arrogance in assuming Allen is unstoppable from 2 yards out, and that arrogance continued in their later tush push failures.

Here's where the counterfactual gets interesting. Instead of being down 32-29 on their last drive, it would have been 31-31 on their 4th and 5 at the 2 minute warning. Decision time. Kick us deep, or don't take a chance on letting Mahomes have the ball back? I think they definitely still go for it given the history of Mahomes having the ball last.

Assuming so, it would have made the ending a little more dramatic with a Butker kick to end it. A good reminder why you don't chase points early. They were just trying to make it 21-18 instead of 21-17 at the end of the first half.
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Rasputin 11:12 PM 01-27-2025
Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl. I appreciate Andy Reid.
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RealSNR 11:17 PM 01-27-2025
I love that Andy doesn't chase points. It's absolutely silly how some coaches will do this shit in the first half.
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DRM08 11:22 PM 01-27-2025
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I love that Andy doesn't chase points. It's absolutely silly how some coaches will do this shit in the first half.
Mostly true, but I do think you should chase the points in the 4th quarter when you already have the 7 point lead and a chance to make the game a 9 point lead instead of a 8 point lead. Massive difference between a two possession lead and one possession lead in the 4th quarter.

Chiefs had this exact scenario against Houston. Andy chose to take the 8 point lead instead of trying for the 9 point lead against Houston. Thankfully it didn't matter in the end, but he extended Houston's chances by keeping it a one possession game at the time. 9 point lead would have been a lot closer to a kill shot.
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Ming the Merciless 11:26 PM 01-27-2025
agree


take the point there every time

way too early not to
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TheGuardian 11:29 PM 01-27-2025
It's why Dan Dampbell lost in the playoffs. It's a real thing.
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Chief Pagan 11:31 PM 01-27-2025
If you think you have more than a 50% of making it, I don't know, seems like playing the odds would make it worthwhile.

At that point in the game, thinking his short yardage play would work would still seem reasonable.

Sure, after KC had gotten some stops, but at that point, it seems reasonable.

If I'm the Bills, I'm absolutely playing to win.
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Chief Pagan 11:34 PM 01-27-2025
Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless:
agree


take the point there every time

way too early not to
And teams used to be WAY too conservative on going for it on fourth down because, oh my gosh. You would be made fun of by Monday morning quarterbacks when a statistically smart play didn't work out.

Yes, you can go to the other extreme, not saying that.
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Buehler445 11:35 PM 01-27-2025
I posted in another thread the refs eating bullets are doing McDermott (probably urged by Joe Brady) a fucking solid.

TAKING POINTS OFF THE BOARD is monumentally stupid. They should be getting roasted for that shit right now, but instead the refs are over here eating bullets for the cause.
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suzzer99 11:43 PM 01-27-2025

The 2 point conversion. Situational football. Danna, Tranquill & Justin Reid get low and rotate their bodies to keep the OL from driving defenders back. The 3 of them are crucial from stopping Allen’s momentum. Jaylen Watson is ready for the pitch back. #Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/ZD9pOONEPg

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) January 28, 2025


This is a thing of beauty.
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Chief Pagan 11:43 PM 01-27-2025
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I posted in another thread the refs eating bullets are doing McDermott (probably urged by Joe Brady) a ****ing solid.

TAKING POINTS OFF THE BOARD is monumentally stupid. They should be getting roasted for that shit right now, but instead the refs are over here eating bullets for the cause.
Sure, that should factor into the odds, so yes for a normal 2 point try it is compared to there would be some relatively small chance of missing the 1 point. But again, if you think you have a definitely better than 50% chance, it is a positive play.
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Bump 11:44 PM 01-27-2025
there was definitely some questionable decision making that helped with their loss.

But don't tell the twitter tards, it's easier to just blame the refs.
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Chief Pagan 11:47 PM 01-27-2025
So after KC got that stop, he should have adjusted his thinking.

But BEFORE that try, what do you think the Bill's coach thought his odds of success were?
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KC_Connection 11:55 PM 01-27-2025
It was really dumb

It’s like he didn’t even consider the guaranteed point in the calculus of going for two
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Pitt Gorilla 11:58 PM 01-27-2025
Originally Posted by Bump:
there was definitely some questionable decision making that helped with their loss.

But don't tell the twitter tards, it's easier to just blame the refs.
I'll never understand why folks have such a difficult time conceding a loss. "It was rigged" is lazy and pathetic.
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