Originally Posted by BCD:
Montana has 4. If Manning can win 4, I'd anoint him. Not until...
I'm going to disagree. I think it's a lot harder to get a team regardless of how great the QB is to 4 SB's today than in Montana's day. Don't have anything to base that on, but I just feel that way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by milkman:
Sanders was a great RB, but he never fully understood when to simply take what the defense gave him.
Now, admittedly, we might have missed a few electrifying runs had he done that, but the fact is, losing yardage is not a recipe for team success.
I'll take the guys that are almost always moving forward.
you present good points. the issue is that everybody has different criteria for what constitutes 'greatest of all-time.' as always, opinions are like assholes. everybody has them, and they stink if they're not yours. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon:
I'm a useless dumbass who is ALWAYS right against you...
ALWAYS...
Stemming back to Huard...
All the way to Manning/Brady...
and I've been saying the same thing since 2003...it's good to see that finally everyone is jumping on board...you'll be on soon enough. You can only deny it so much until you no longer want to beat yourself up over defending something that makes you look like a total retard.
You weren't right about Huard, and trust me, I'm never going to jump on the Manning bandwagon. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BCD:
Are you sure? Brady has the record for TD passes in a season with 50. Whose record of 48 did he break? :-)
Well since it took Brady 16 games to throw 50, and Manning 15 games to throw 49...I'm pretty sure we all know who would still have that record if the Colts played their meaningless games (he was 1-2 in week 17 and played 1 series in 2004)...
and by breaking that record...they also gave the Giants a perfect gameplan on how to beat them in the Super Bowl (18-1)...
Originally Posted by kstater:
I'm going to disagree. I think it's a lot harder to get a team regardless of how great the QB is to 4 SB's today than in Montana's day. Don't have anything to base that on, but I just feel that way.
This has become a QB driven league.
Great QBs today should have an easier time getting to the SB than in Montana's day, (and it was even more difficult in Bradshaw's day, and in Starr's day before that).
Montana faced far better TEAMs in the NFC than any that Manning has had to. [Reply]
Originally Posted by milkman:
Magic made the players around him better, not only raising teh level of their strenths, but also their weaknesses.
Did you ever see James Worthy try moving to his left, and doing ot well without Magic.
He (Worthy) was the absolute worst I've ever seen moving to his weak side, without Magic.
He looked fluid and smooth with.
Michel never had that kind of effect.
They are different kind of players. Magic was basically a power forward playing PG. Magic's role was to distribute the ball. Jordan's role was to dominate because no one ever had the skills he did to score. His' defense wasnt to shabby either.
I am a Life long Lakers fan since i was a kid in the early 80's and Magic is a GREAT player, but Jordan is the best. Magic has players that fit what he did. Jordan had players that FIT what he did. [Reply]
