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Nzoner's Game Room>Rashee Rice [legal issues megathread]
DaFace 04:02 PM 04-10-2024
The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.

Arrest warrant and potential charges:
Spoiler!


Analysis from a defense attorney:
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Turned himself in and now out on bail:
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Random minutiae:
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dlphg9 01:30 PM 07-12-2024
Kiimo thinks NFL players should be allowed to bet on NFL games?

No fucking way. Nothing would make me question this league more than that. I don't care if they're not playing in the game they bet on. Players could easily set up a scheme with some player friends and have them shave points for them. Most of these guys are looking to make as much money as possible.
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New World Order 01:33 PM 07-12-2024
With all the legal jargon I don't think it's going to be this year.

He has a civil suit in december. Bet it's 2025.
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staylor26 01:35 PM 07-12-2024
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Kiimo thinks NFL players should be allowed to bet on NFL games?

No fucking way. Nothing would make me question this league more than that. I don't care if they're not playing in the game they bet on. Players could easily set up a scheme with some player friends and have them shave points for them. Most of these guys are looking to make as much money as possible.
Yup. Playing the NFL is a privilege, not a right, and the NFL has every right to protect the integrity of their own league.

If you absolutely must bet on NFL games, don't play in the NFL :-)
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Chief Pagan 01:42 PM 07-12-2024
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I'm leaning to him playing the entire year with this cloud hanging over him. We win our third super bowl and then he gets suspended for the first two games of 2025.
The Chiefs third SB, along with their entire 2024 season should be voided since Rice should not have been eligible to play.

-mike florio
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RedinTexas 03:26 PM 07-12-2024


Michael Franzese on how they got pro athletes involved in shaving points.
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Otter 08:21 AM 07-13-2024
Originally Posted by RedinTexas:


Michael Franzese on how they got pro athletes involved in shaving points.

Interesting choice of background.
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chiefzilla1501 07:08 PM 07-13-2024
The way I see it, fans will always hate a cheater but secretly be ok with someone being cutthroat about winning. Because when you try to win, you still have to beat the other team.

Throwing games is despicable shit. Unlike cheating, it isn't hard to guarantee a loss. Even lowlifes like shoeless Joe Jackson can find ways to hide it in plain sight. And worst of all, any player that would accept a loss is a disgrace to himself, to the fans who expect to see a game and not a predetermined screenplay, and to the city fronting a gajillion dollars to let them play. It is an unforgivable cardinal sin.
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Chris Meck 07:41 AM 07-14-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The way I see it, fans will always hate a cheater but secretly be ok with someone being cutthroat about winning. Because when you try to win, you still have to beat the other team.

Throwing games is despicable shit. Unlike cheating, it isn't hard to guarantee a loss. Even lowlifes like shoeless Joe Jackson can find ways to hide it in plain sight. And worst of all, any player that would accept a loss is a disgrace to himself, to the fans who expect to see a game and not a predetermined screenplay, and to the city fronting a gajillion dollars to let them play. It is an unforgivable cardinal sin.
I think the argument has always been that not every member of the Black Sox was in on the fix, and that Jackson almost certainly was not as he hit like.400 plus that series.

Other than that, I agree. The proliferation of endorsed sports betting at the level it is will be a problem sooner or later.
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staylor26 05:44 PM 07-14-2024

Former USC receiver Jordan Addison, now with Vikings, arrested near LAX for alleged DUIhttps://t.co/AQaxwwTV1r

— Luca Evans (@bylucaevans) July 14, 2024

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Bowser 05:46 PM 07-14-2024
They just never learn.
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ThaVirus 06:46 PM 07-14-2024
Addison had a prior issue with speeding, IIRC. He hit like 140 mph on camera or something.
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displacedinMN 07:49 PM 07-14-2024
damn, just started a thread on it. Mods--do what you need to with it.
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chiefzilla1501 08:44 PM 07-14-2024
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I think the argument has always been that not every member of the Black Sox was in on the fix, and that Jackson almost certainly was not as he hit like.400 plus that series.

Other than that, I agree. The proliferation of endorsed sports betting at the level it is will be a problem sooner or later.
Its a little sketchy. Maybe it's a little tinfoil hat, but it's interesting that shoeless joe was flat out unstoppable in at bats that didnt matter and really bad in at bats that did. Was an elite fielder but made uncharacteristic errors in big moments. It seems sketchy to be so bad at high leverage situations.
https://calltothepen.com/2020/01/21/...n-1919-series/

Same way Pete rose probably saved his best pitchers for games he bet on to win.

All the more reason to have zero tolerance. Because it may be easy to get away with taking the money or gambling on your own games. But on top of that, there are also ways to pretend like you're trying when you might not be.
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kevrunner 08:51 PM 07-14-2024
Addison is only 22, the young and dumb excuse most likely will be used.
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Dunerdr 07-15-2024, 06:14 AM
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Dunerdr 07:07 AM 07-15-2024
Originally Posted by kevrunner:
Addison is only 22, the young and dumb excuse most likely will be used.
Much older than *Checks notes* Rice at 24 with the exact same amount of time in the league.
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