Originally Posted by UteChief:
The reason I asked was I used to have two portfolios. One I’d choose stocks. The other was made up of stocks I was interested in and researched. Occasionally, I would out perform the index, but my individual stocks were so much more volatile. I decided I didn’t like the roller coaster ride and exited out of the individual stocks and now do strictly index. Except for stock grants and ESPP. I know have exit strategies for those as well. I must say I like the change. The index is up 28.44% YTD and 33.87% 1Y. I probably wound down the individual portfolio at the wrong time as it’s much worse!
Ha.
I haven't run into a decent way to do that without yacking up shit. Obviously transferring everything to Schwab isn't it. :-)
Yeah, I put some pretty big contributions in mid-year, which is probably why my average is down compared to the S&P YTD. Weirdly, the return on my individual stocks is 14.96% and my ETFs is 14.66%. There is a lot more variability (Like my ADM position is down 15%), but the returns are shockingly similar. That is typically less than 10%, but it's about 11% right now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I switched platforms in March. Annoyingly those numbers aren’t easily dug out. Best I can tell my YTD return is 14.28%. Also annoyingly, that number doesn’t include dividends, which roughly math should add another .9%. I think?
I should t have switched platforms. I’m not thrilled about it.
Apparently I wasn't looking in the right place. According to Schwab, my return in 19.16%. I should probably dig into what the difference between the number I dug up and what this is showing. I'm not doing the math right today. It might be the basis I transferred in, it wasn't much in terms of value, but I had to work my ass off to get it in right. I'll look at it sometime.
I am a little surprised it is as close to the S&P return as it is. I mean, I own a lot of VOO, but all the SCHD I have I'd expect some more lag, and the individual stocks, individual investors typically underperform the S&P, so I guess I should be happy with my performance. [Reply]
Prefacing this to say that I don’t know shit about Bitcoin or that entire ecosystem.
Is Ethereum something that could be a good buy? Reading about it it sounds like a much better product (though different) than Bitcoin. It seems less chaotic and more practical.
Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake:
This entire year has been regoddamneddiculous.
Yeah, I'm just a slow-and-steady index fund investor, and my net worth has grown this year by roughly double my actual salary. Makes me feel like I should have slow played my post-layoff job hunt and relaxed a little more. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yeah, I'm just a slow-and-steady index fund investor, and my net worth has grown this year by roughly double my actual salary. Makes me feel like I should have slow played my post-layoff job hunt and relaxed a little more. :-)
I remember the first year where my investment returns were higher than my salary. I had a sudden stark realization that I had created a new wage earner in my family who didn't cost me anything. That was a powerful moment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Pretty sure he's heavy into NVDA, right? That'd certainly do it this year.
Oh sure, lots of stocks are up a ton. There are quite a few speculative type things that are up 100+ since the election basically.
It's just his entire IRA must be allocated that way. It'd be one thing if he started it last year and it was his first 12k. The inception date on the IRA is 2008. I'm amazed. I don't have the risk tolerance for that. I just do almost all index funds and don't look at my retirement accts. I don't even have the apps on my phone lol. Just my taxable brokerage accts that I play in. Even half of those are just funds [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
Oh sure, lots of stocks are up a ton. There are quite a few speculative type things that are up 100+ since the election basically.
It's just his entire IRA must be allocated that way. It'd be one thing if he started it last year and it was his first 12k. The inception date on the IRA is 2008. I'm amazed. I don't have the risk tolerance for that. I just do almost all index funds and don't look at my retirement accts. I don't even have the apps on my phone lol. Just my taxable brokerage accts that I play in. Even half of those are just funds
Yeah, I was wondering if he's still contributing to the Roth, which I think would push the returns up a lot. I think (not sure) that some brokerages control for contributions and other brokerages just divide the total by the Jan 01 balance. But since he has a 2008 start date, it seems like he's having a good year regardless.
I have a Roth account that's up 267 percent this year, but that's only because it's two years old and I put about half of my salary this year into it.
But it's possible to double your money in a year. I have a friend who picked exactly the right stocks about five years ago and concentrated his holdings in them. He was up over 100 percent in 2018 or 2019, and he had significant investments. (He lost his a** the next year when they all went down, by the way, but still ended up winning big over the two-year period.) [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
Oh sure, lots of stocks are up a ton. There are quite a few speculative type things that are up 100+ since the election basically.
It's just his entire IRA must be allocated that way. It'd be one thing if he started it last year and it was his first 12k. The inception date on the IRA is 2008. I'm amazed. I don't have the risk tolerance for that. I just do almost all index funds and don't look at my retirement accts. I don't even have the apps on my phone lol. Just my taxable brokerage accts that I play in. Even half of those are just funds
Yeah, I'm the same. I long ago decided I don't have the time, interest, or patience to invest in individual stocks. Couple that with basically every study saying you can't beat the market in the long-term, and I'm good with the "set it and forget it" approach. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yeah, I'm the same. I long ago decided I don't have the time, interest, or patience to invest in individual stocks. Couple that with basically every study saying you can't beat the market in the long-term, and I'm good with the "set it and forget it" approach.
Same here. I do a little tweaking here and there at a macro level but I don't have the time or energy to go much deeper than that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yeah, I'm just a slow-and-steady index fund investor, and my net worth has grown this year by roughly double my actual salary. Makes me feel like I should have slow played my post-layoff job hunt and relaxed a little more. :-)
This is the first year where my returns have exceeded my salary. It's a really weird feeling having your job not your primary source of wealth.
Looking back, it's taken a really strange trajectory. Between 2010-2019 I had ZERO dollars of aggregate growth. The bad years cancelled out the good ones. Yet I kept contributing. Then in 2019 it exploded, now's it's at 10x the 2019 valuation. Complete hockey stick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
Oh sure, lots of stocks are up a ton. There are quite a few speculative type things that are up 100+ since the election basically.
It's just his entire IRA must be allocated that way. It'd be one thing if he started it last year and it was his first 12k. The inception date on the IRA is 2008. I'm amazed. I don't have the risk tolerance for that. I just do almost all index funds and don't look at my retirement accts. I don't even have the apps on my phone lol. Just my taxable brokerage accts that I play in. Even half of those are just funds
Well, it didn't start out that way. When I bought NVDA in 2017 it was a small percentage of my IRA account, now it's around 60%. Fucker just wouldn't stop growing. I've already sold half so the gains are locked in. I'm hanging on to around 1k shares.
The volatility doesn't really bother me. It could drop by half and I'd still be way ahead. I did split some into a more conservative portfolio as a hedge. [Reply]