Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.
Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.
Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.
The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.
Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.
If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.
There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.
Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.
Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.
Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).
If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.
Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."
Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.
Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.
There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.
Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.
It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.
Originally Posted by frazod:
And what did you take from that?
Oklahoma will beat you by seven touchdowns.
Perhaps Missouri will only beat you by five or six?
I guess neg repping you at this point would be like shooting a 100-year-dead corpse, but your ****tard is swelling out of control again.
Just answering the question.
Why are you so bitter all the time? Can't you just post like a normal person?
Oklahoma is nowhere near as good as the top SEC teams as we can now see. Plus they were without an NFL wide out and they still beat MU rather easily.
Of course they will be favored over Kansas...no one brought that team into the discussion.
We could just have a thread where no one states their opinions and all the MU fans chant for moving to the SEC. But I don't think anyone is interested in that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Just answering the question.
Why are you so bitter all the time? Can't you just post like a normal person?
Oklahoma is nowhere near as good as the top SEC teams as we can now see. Plus they were without an NFL wide out and they still beat MU rather easily.
Of course they will be favored over Kansas...no one brought that team into the discussion.
We could just have a thread where no one states their opinions and all the MU fans chant for moving to the SEC. But I don't think anyone is interested in that.
Is there any Big 12 that KU can stay within 10 points of? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wickedson:
Just answering the question.
Why are you so bitter all the time? Can't you just post like a normal person?
Oklahoma is nowhere near as good as the top SEC teams as we can now see. Plus they were without an NFL wide out and they still beat MU rather easily.
Of course they will be favored over Kansas...no one brought that team into the discussion.
We could just have a thread where no one states their opinions and all the MU fans chant for moving to the SEC. But I don't think anyone is interested in that.
Calling you out for being a moron doesn't make me or anyone else bitter. It's like saying ice is cold, or water is wet, or fire is hot.
Also, "beat rather easily" isn't a 10 point win at home. "Beating easily" would be more akin to the game Georgia Tech had against KU. Hopefully this will clear up the concept of getting beat easily for you.
Any other simple concepts I can explain to you? I'm here to help. [Reply]
I sure hope Missouri stays and the Louisville rumor is true. Louisville is a name brand, even if it is in basketball, I believe it is one of the top three most valuable basketball programs in the nation. The football is competitive even if it will be in the lower part of the Big XII. Good geographic fit, expands the footprint and a passionate fan base in a large city.
I do believe the Big XII will stop there for a few years and then consider expansion before they renegotiate their 1st Tier deal in 2016. I think they should stay in the south if they do and look seriously at Southern Florida and Central Florida. Open up a new market on a football rich state. Those two schools already hate each other, so we would be bringing in another good rivalry.
How long before you Tiggers decide what is best for you? [Reply]
Originally Posted by frazod:
Calling you out for being a moron doesn't make me or anyone else bitter. It's like saying ice is cold, or water is wet, or fire is hot.
Also, "beat rather easily" isn't a 10 point win at home. "Beating easily" would be more akin to the game Georgia Tech had against KU. Hopefully this will clear up the concept of getting beat easily for you.
Any other simple concepts I can explain to you? I'm here to help.
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
Yes it will. They'll be able to say you can come play in the best conference, have the highest chance of getting drafted into the NFL, and now you'll have your games televised in Texas and get to play there in front of friends and family.
If they wanted to "play in the best conference, have the highest chance of getting drafted into the NFL", they would have. They aren't. LSU and Arkansas get a small handful just due to proximity. Their games are already televised and they already get to play in front of friends and family (they'd actually do that more often with 3 Texas schools in conference rather than just one).
The "SEC is the NFL bullet train!!!" argument has not worked. Big 12 out-recruits everyone because Texas kids want to either play for Texas/OU, or against them. Texas A&M won't change things. Good Texas players are not going to be saying "damn those Aggies for not giving me a scholarship, I'ma goin' to go to Columbia!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Louisville has been invited.
I'm gonna need to hear someone other than Greg Swaim reporting it. Not that I wouldn't be OK with UL, Cinci, and BYU, and maybe he's good at recruiting news, but this guy has just gotten too many things wrong on conference realignment, to the point where he's at non-credible rumor status. [Reply]
Originally Posted by alnorth:
If they wanted to "play in the best conference, have the highest chance of getting drafted into the NFL", they would have. They aren't. LSU and Arkansas get a small handful just due to proximity. Their games are already televised and they already get to play in front of friends and family (they'd actually do that more often with 3 Texas schools in conference rather than just one).
The "SEC is the NFL bullet train!!!" argument has not worked. Big 12 out-recruits everyone because Texas kids want to either play for Texas/OU, or against them. Texas A&M won't change things. Good Texas players are not going to be saying "damn those Aggies for not giving me a scholarship, I'ma goin' to go to Columbia!"
I agree heartily with this. Texas A&M is going to have to fight pretty hard to maintain its current Texas recruiting.
Missouri would have an even harder time continuing it's recruiting success at the same level in Texas if it moved to the SEC. Which is one reason I strenuously oppose the move. Right now, Missouri beats oSu, Tech, Baylor, Iowa State, kansas, Arkansas pretty consistently for Texas kids. If Missouri left and the Big 12 stayed together, oSu, Tech and Baylor win many more of those battles.
The SEC is a lot of things in football, but it isn't recruiting magic.
Recruiting Texas kids to the SEC while the Big 12 exists has not been easy for Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, etc. It would not be easy for Mizzou. [Reply]
Originally Posted by alnorth:
I'm gonna need to hear someone other than Greg Swaim reporting it. Not that I wouldn't be OK with UL, Cinci, and BYU, and maybe he's good at recruiting news, but this guy has just gotten too many things wrong on conference realignment, to the point where he's at non-credible rumor status.
Yep, he grabs a shovel and just keeps on digging. [Reply]
Originally Posted by alnorth:
I'm gonna need to hear someone other than Greg Swaim reporting it. Not that I wouldn't be OK with UL, Cinci, and BYU, and maybe he's good at recruiting news, but this guy has just gotten too many things wrong on conference realignment, to the point where he's at non-credible rumor status.
Yep. As we've discussed before so much of this "twitter" reporting is really hurting some of these guys.
Originally Posted by alnorth:
If they wanted to "play in the best conference, have the highest chance of getting drafted into the NFL", they would have. They aren't. LSU and Arkansas get a small handful just due to proximity. Their games are already televised and they already get to play in front of friends and family (they'd actually do that more often with 3 Texas schools in conference rather than just one).
The "SEC is the NFL bullet train!!!" argument has not worked. Big 12 out-recruits everyone because Texas kids want to either play for Texas/OU, or against them. Texas A&M won't change things. Good Texas players are not going to be saying "damn those Aggies for not giving me a scholarship, I'ma goin' to go to Columbia!"
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I agree heartily with this. Texas A&M is going to have to fight pretty hard to maintain its current Texas recruiting.
Missouri would have an even harder time continuing it's recruiting success at the same level in Texas if it moved to the SEC. Which is one reason I strenuously oppose the move. Right now, Missouri beats oSu, Tech, Baylor, Iowa State, kansas, Arkansas pretty consistently for Texas kids. If Missouri left and the Big 12 stayed together, oSu, Tech and Baylor win many more of those battles.
The SEC is a lot of things in football, but it isn't recruiting magic.
Recruiting Texas kids to the SEC while the Big 12 exists has not been easy for Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, etc. It would not be easy for Mizzou.
I agree that Mizzou switching to the SEC will harm their Texas recruiting.
I vehemently disagree that TAMU moving to the SEC will hurt their recruiting and that it wont improve the rest of the SEC's recruiting in Texas. [Reply]
