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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:35 AM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Colin Cowherd kills it.

KILLS IT.

He's talking on the subject of interceptions and QB's. He's speaking on Sam Darnold, but it applies to Patrick Mahomes as well. Worth a listen.

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-...urce=share_url
This is one of the examples where Cowherd shows his brilliance. Not all that common, but the analogies are great.
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O.city 10:41 AM 08-22-2018
I can't listen right now, someone recap it for me.
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Strongside 10:51 AM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I can't listen right now, someone recap it for me.
Basically said that interceptions are the bi-product of quarterbacks that take chances, and that most of the great ones do.

The stat that stood out to me was that, once Peyton goes into the Hall of Fame, 7 of the 10 all-time NFL interceptions leaders will be in the Hall of Fame. Favre is #1.
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Discuss Thrower 11:34 AM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
This is one of the examples where Cowherd shows his brilliance. Not all that common, but the analogies are great.
But the dude is a prick..
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ToxSocks 11:35 AM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
But the dude is a prick..
Prick or not, he's right and brings a strong argument to the table.

tl;dw:

Don't worry about INTS. The great ones didn't. He even illustrates how even in year 4 Peyton Manning was still throwing 20+ ints.
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Discuss Thrower 11:41 AM 08-22-2018
Interceptions are the contextual turnover. How and why a dude was picked off matters much more than the total amount of times he gets picked off.
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WhiteWhale 11:59 AM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Interceptions are the contextual turnover. How and why a dude was picked off matters much more than the total amount of times he gets picked off.
Yup. Just the most obvious example

You're up by 7 in the redzone. QB throws a pick 6 the other way. 14 swing. Now instead of a 14 point lead, the game is tied.

Compare to 3rd and 17 from the opponents 40. QB throws a pick at the 20 yard line. No big deal. Functionally no different than punting the ball into the endzone on the next down.

I still think the best and most demoralizing turnover is the sack-and-strip.
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The Franchise 12:02 PM 08-22-2018
My biggest thing is does the QB learn from his mistakes. Sure....throw an interception into double coverage. But does he come back two drives later and make the same mistake? Does he make that same mistake over and over again?
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Kiimo 12:43 PM 08-22-2018
When Colin has a solid point, he's great.

The problem is he wanders into subjects he doesn't really know or understand on occasion and when he does he displays the same confidence in his hot takes and it makes him look like a fool.

His takes on college basketball, for instance, are asinine.
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Dayze 01:26 PM 08-22-2018
Colin and Mike Greenburg(?).....those are two guys who absolutely, 150%, are in LOVE with the sound of their own voices.
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RedRaider56 01:52 PM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by Dayze:
Colin and Mike Greenburg(?).....those are two guys who absolutely, 150%, are in LOVE with the sound of their own voices.
Can't stand listening to Greeny. He's always smacking his lips while talking,. Drives me insane :-)
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ToxSocks 03:15 PM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
My biggest thing is does the QB learn from his mistakes. Sure....throw an interception into double coverage. But does he come back two drives later and make the same mistake? Does he make that same mistake over and over again?
I expect him to make the same, or very similar mistakes for awhile. But i don't think it's indictment on his development, but rather a willingness to make a play.
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JohnnyV13 03:38 PM 08-22-2018
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Complaining about Mahomes possibly having more interceptions than Alex is like being given a brand new Ferrari and bitching that it gets worse gas mileage than your old Toyota.
No. It's more like marrying a supermodel and then complaining that she spends more money on clothes and salon visits than your middle-aged ex wife.
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UChieffyBugger 04:57 PM 08-22-2018
I respect Cowherd's show, but he can be a biased idiot at times. He says people shouldn't judge Darnold on Int's but yet today he decided that our Chiefs will be "8-8" this season because Pat threw one the other day and "QB's need to be efficient". The guy is all over the place.
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KChiefs1 05:10 PM 08-22-2018
Everyone has an opinion.
https://youtu.be/PvkRfpCgivg
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