Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
fucking BULLET
I feel like this pass will be remembered like the Montana to Clark play, only instead of it being "The Catch" we will all refer to it as "The Throw" And in 20 years there will be about 200,000 people who will tell the story to their kids and grandchildren, and they will all claim to have been there when Mahomes threw his first TD pass at Arrowhead.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He had a completely unremarkable, maybe 7 yard gain at some point in the 3rd quarter. I wish I'd have paid more attention to it but at the time it really seemed to mean nothing.
Guy looked off a safety and it just looked like habit. It was just what he does. That's what was so funny about it - guy was moving around the secondary like I'd tie my shoes. It wasn't this remarkable downfield strike for a TD, it was just a basic, hit my first read for a short gain on first down sort of slant that meant nothing.
And he was STILL looking guys off. He's just ridiculously good.
We are simpatico on this point, Mr. DJ's left nut. Therefore, I should like to add something that (hopefully) compliments your most excellent point.
Lying with his eyes and body language to safeties wasn't exactly his strong suit at Tech. He did it, but he didn't do it all the time and he didn't sell it ... mainly because his footwork was so awkward and sporadic that the defense couldn't really tell what he was doing back there.
Fast forward to now and he's a much more detailed player. Still raw, but much better in his footwork, balance, and platform (fewer straight-leg throws, for example). Plus, he's calling protections, identifying coverages, manipulating defenses ... both pre- and post-snap.
But this is what strikes me; in the ESPN mini-doc, Kingsbury mentions that Mahomes was never "over-coached" in high school so "he has a different way of seeing the game". I think this is an insight that 's easy to overlook. It points to the idea that Mahomes has a basic, natural aptitude for playing the QB position. Kingsbury didn't overcoach him at Tech either, so his game looked a lot like street ball, which is a big reason why a lot of NFL scouts weren't sold.
Then, he reports to Wally's World and he has a coach who doesn't try to "re-make" him. Instead, Wally just helps him refine a few things and see the game a little differently.
It's obvious to me that Mahomes and the QB Whisperer are the football version of a perfect storm. Then, when you consider the skill players around him, you have the makings of a generational team. This is, by far and away, the apex of Chiefs football since 1969.
After a few games to improve their timing, these Chiefs are going to make any other NFL offense look archaic.
Originally Posted by FAX:
Lying with his eyes and body language to safeties wasn't exactly his strong suit at Tech. He did it, but he didn't do it all the time and he didn't sell it ... mainly because his footwork was so awkward and sporadic that the defense couldn't really tell what he was doing back there.
Fast forward to now and he's a much more detailed player. Still raw, but much better in his footwork, balance, and platform (fewer straight-leg throws, for example). Plus, he's calling protections, identifying coverages, manipulating defenses ... both pre- and post-snap.
But this is what strikes me; in the ESPN mini-doc, Kingsbury mentions that Mahomes was never "over-coached" in high school so "he has a different way of seeing the game". I think this is an insight that 's easy to overlook. It points to the idea that Mahomes has a basic, natural aptitude for playing the QB position. Kingsbury didn't overcoach him at Tech either, so his game looked a lot like street ball, which is a big reason why a lot of NFL scouts weren't sold.
Then, he reports to Wally's World and he has a coach who doesn't try to "re-make" him. Instead, Wally just helps him refine a few things and see the game a little differently.
During the run-up to the 2017 draft in the QB impressions thread I was lampooning the 'wait 'till next year' crowd who was yapping about how much better '18 would be. I tried to draw parallel's between the respective classes and my opposite number for Mahomes was Josh Allen.
At the time I said the biggest difference mechanically was that Allen occasionally has good footwork and when he does, it's pretty good. I wouldn't know how Mahomes footwork is because it's just never good at all; he'd throw with his feet sideways and falling backwards on a screen pass - it just never seemed to be something he gave a damn about. I thought Allen's would need to be emphasized whereas Mahomes would need to have his re-worked altogether.
But I think you're right - rather than re-work it, Reid may have created a perfect monster of unorthodox but effective. Mahomes feet are LIGHT YEARS better than they were at Tech (or last pre-season), but they're still a little wonky at times. He still likes that back foot throw on occasion. But y'know what? Who cares? He always hits it. When he throws off the back foot, he's still putting it right where he wants it. And when he needs the fastball, he's not throwing off his back foot; he's driving into it just like he should (well, except for when he's throwing sidearm across his body while evading the rush into a tiny, rapidly closing window in the back corner of the endzone...man he's a freak).
They really are perfectly complementary people. You could not draw up a better coach for Mahomes in a lab. I've complemented McVay but I'm not sure he's the pure teacher that Reid is; more of an upjumped coordinator with a freakish eye for offense. Reid may not be quite McVay's equal tactically but he's also a spectacular teacher and truly loves that element of the game. What Reid has done to get all of the idiosyncratic things that Mahomes does to gel together into this world destroying Unicorn is just amazing. [Reply]
I've spent the last five years setting up a kind of offensive preserve. Really spectacular, spared no expense. It'll make the one I had down in Philadelphia look like a petting zoo. And there's no doubt, our attractions will drive kids out of their minds.
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I've spent the last five years setting up a kind of offensive preserve. Really spectacular, spared no expense. It'll make the one I had down in Philadelphia look like a petting zoo. And there's no doubt, our attractions will drive kids out of their minds.
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Alex Smith became a huge fucking sissy once he was conked in the head durring that @IND game. He stopped scrambling from that point on and went into fetal mode a lot.
He was a pussy long before that. He just became a bigger one after that game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I feel like this pass will be remembered like the Montana to Clark play, only instead of it being "The Catch" we will all refer to it as "The Throw" And in 20 years there will be about 200,000 people who will tell the story to their kids and grandchildren, and they will all claim to have been there when Mahomes threw his first TD pass at Arrowhead.
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meh...lets wait until Mahomes makes the game winning pass in the AFC championship game before talking like that... [Reply]