Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.
We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Yes, we typically vote often on how our tax dollars are to be spent. Just last November, our county had a vote regarding a use tax for online out of state purchases. We rejected that one too.
Also voted last year to approve a 3/8th cent tax to fund the public bus system.
That's just a couple I can remember from last year. So, yes this is typical for Jackson county voters deciding how to spend our taxes.
Did they line out a plan for the 3/8th cent tax for the public bus system? Where all the dollars were going? What brand of buses would be purchased and with what safety features? Future increases in pay for bus drivers? Updated maintenance schedules for buses to ensure they kept running? Increases in bus routes due to increased funding? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
I find that a person who purchased the team a couple years ago is already wanting a new stadium and for all intents and purposes threatening to move the team, or at least his wife running her mouth, and it comes across as very Major Leagueish and I don't think you're going to win many fans that way, but that likely wasn't ever the case and this was the intention you wanted from the get go. Doesn't matter where the team is in your mind, as long as you can make the most money off it, you'll Baltimore Ravens a great franchise so you get what you want. It's a problem when rich people buy things you care about, they can tear it apart right in front of you just as easily.
If the Chiefs separate themselves from the Royals and ask for money for renovations, even if they were the same lazy plans, it'd probably pass. Tying themselves to John Sherman is not a good strategy or look.
I think the Royals handled the communication of things horribly right to the very end, but to be fair to my knowledge they've never once threatened to move anywhere but the KC area. Even Sherman's wife going off on Facebook was just a rant about Frank White and Jackson County.
All this hype about them moving is coming from fans, which isn't realistic because it's not just Sherman, the Royals have a huge ownership group and almost all of them are KC locals with big money. The Chiefs have the ownership group that lives in Texas and have basically become an international brand with Mahomes and Kelce and Taylor Swift. They can do literally anything they want at this point and no one can stop them.
I don't think either team is moving though. They didn't do a good job here but you also have to realize Frank White fought them uphill every bit of the way. I 100% think they're going to make an attempt to build new stadiums in the KC area with government agencies that are on their side and actively trying to help them come up with and sell a better plan. I think the vote wasn't for the teams to move, but I think it was the end of the Truman Sports Complex. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Did they line out a plan for the 3/8th cent tax for the public bus system? Where all the dollars were going? What brand of buses would be purchased and with what safety features? Future increases in pay for bus drivers? Updated maintenance schedules for buses to ensure they kept running? Increases in bus routes due to increased funding?
I realize you're being a hyperbolic idiot. But yes, they provided detailed specifics like how much of the budget the tax would cover and what types of services would be added. Most importantly, detailing exactly what the tax funds would be allowed to be spent on. Unlike the Royals.
Originally Posted by Fish:
I realize you're being a hyperbolic idiot. But yes, they provided detailed specifics like how much of the budget the tax would cover and what types of services would be added. Most importantly, detailing exactly what the tax funds would be allowed to be spent on. Unlike the Royals.
It's funny that your link didn't provide any of that information and it had the scare tactic that "if not approved, there will be a significant decline in services." I guess using scare tactics is only bad when it comes to MLB and NFL teams. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
It's funny that your link didn't provide any of that information and it had the scare tactic that "if not approved, there will be a significant decline in services." I guess using scare tactics is only bad when it comes to MLB and NFL teams.
You seem to be forgetting that vote back in 2006 when Jackson county voters approved a 3/8th cent tax for maintenance of Truman Sports complex for our MLB and NFL teams. And surely forgetting how a version of that one was initially rejected as well.
Maybe Jackson County voters don't mind a 3/8th cent sales tax as long as the financial details are provided and we're shown what the funds can and cannot be spent on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lewdog:
I don't know, please tell me about something no one cares about.
These days, the Royals. They didn't prove they were committed to winning and getting results before they asked for a cash cow, so the people of JACO don't care about them (as the vote showed). [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
These days, the Royals. They didn't prove they were committed to winning and getting results before they asked for a cash cow, so the people of JACO don't care about them (as the vote showed).
They spent more money than almost anyone not named the Dodgers this offseason and gave their star player a 14 year contract. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
They spent more money than almost anyone not named the Dodgers this offseason and gave their star player a 14 year contract.
Good for them. Only took them almost another decade to get serious about winning again.
Here's what the Royals are battling with JACO voters other than the above.
Most people love Kauffman Stadium and don't see any reason for it to change....yet.
The Royals want it downtown because it's around more people/businesses etc. They want a piece of that downtown pie.
They just didn't have any plan, didn't even know the location. How do you expect people to vote yes to something as big a deal as building a downtown stadium and not have any real clear plan, no transparency etc?
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Good for them. Only took them almost another decade to get serious about winning again.
Here's what the Royals are battling with JACO voters other than the above.
Most people love Kauffman Stadium and don't see any reason for it to change....yet.
The Royals want it downtown because it's around more people/businesses etc. They want a piece of that downtown pie.
They just didn't have any plan, didn't even know the location. How do you expect people to vote yes to something as big a deal as building a downtown stadium and not have any real clear plan, no transparency etc?
Originally Posted by tk13:
They spent more money than almost anyone not named the Dodgers this offseason and gave their star player a 14 year contract.
So maybe they should wait 2-3 years and prove that they'll keep it up. We've had other BWJrs around here so they need to stack the team with proven top-shelf pitchers and "could go yard with any swing" hitters, compete for the ALCS for 2-3 years, then ask for a handout. Beyond that the people of JACO aren't falling for their bullshit in a league where pitching and hitting is king. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
What even happened to the East Village spot?
They were going on about some MODOT bullshit and the highway that would be next to it. A total bullshit excuse given what was being considered. [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Good for them. Only took them almost another decade to get serious about winning again.
Here's what the Royals are battling with JACO voters other than the above.
Most people love Kauffman Stadium and don't see any reason for it to change....yet.
The Royals want it downtown because it's around more people/businesses etc. They want a piece of that downtown pie.
They just didn't have any plan, didn't even know the location. How do you expect people to vote yes to something as big a deal as building a downtown stadium and not have any real clear plan, no transparency etc?
Royals should've been more prepared.
What? They had a plan and a location. You can say that the plan wasn't good but they had all the things you say they didn't. [Reply]