- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I hope we're seeing Moore as the #1 guy with MVS as the X.
DJ Moore, that is.
With Skyy as the Y.
I'd love that but I just don't see it happening.
And when I said MVS would be our #1 I didn't mean I see him emerging as a WR1. More that I see him leading all Chiefs WR's in catches and yards. [Reply]
For the second straight week Skyy Moore has been open all night long. His average separation per route run was 5.11 yards per @NextGenStats. This is 1st among receivers, just ahead of Devonta Smith and Justin Jefferson. He saw saw only 3 targets on 14 routes ran. pic.twitter.com/aml29mtoUG
This is just what Andy does with vets and rookies. JJSS, MVS, and Hardman are all vets that are playing just well enough. Moore is going to continue getting very limited snaps, because he is a rookie. It's the same thing with Pacheco.
It sucks, but it's just the way he does things. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
3 targets on 14 routes sounds more like a Mahomes thing than an Andy thing. Sure, Andy needs to get him more than 14 chances. But Mahomes also has to look his direction more.
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
This is just what Andy does with vets and rookies. JJSS, MVS, and Hardman are all vets that are playing just well enough. Moore is going to continue getting very limited snaps, because he is a rookie. It's the same thing with Pacheco.
It sucks, but it's just the way he does things.
I get that. He’s a HOF coach and gets to have his own process. That said…..
Why would you sit a WR that’s you can see on the game film is getting open a lot and getting wide open in some cases? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
7.3 yards/target for JJSS.
8.5 yards/target while clearly playing through a bad heel that hampers his wheels for Hardman.
Now if you want to argue that he presents a big, physical target that Pat can use situationally - I get that. And I'm not saying to cut the guy; he can have a role here.
But in terms of efficiency, he's just not an efficient receiver. Hasn't been for years now. And that's how this offense should operate, IMO - focus on efficiency. And as we've seen more data on it, it's not that Hardman isn't getting targeted because he isn't open - he is. He's getting a lot of separation. He's just further down the reads.
So change that. Or don't but have Moore running those underneath routes that JJSS is running. No, he's not going to catch the ball in traffic and absorb a blow - but he may not have to. His release and separation may allow him to catch that ball WITHOUT congestion and then move in space.
I’m not sure why people focus solely on yards per target when determining efficiency. JJSS’s strength is as a possession receiver. Of course he’s not going to have a yards per target that rivals Tyreek or Chase.
He’s been a little underwhelming so far, but I still think the best is yet to come. He’s been dealing with injuries and is still getting comfortable in the offense. [Reply]
The fact that Moore is starting to get open a lot and Mahomes has looked his way a little more the last two weeks makes me think he’s about to break out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I get that. He’s a HOF coach and gets to have his own process. That said…..
Why would you sit a WR that’s you can see on the game film is getting open a lot and getting wide open in some cases?
Well I think he's getting noticed, because his snap counts are going up and Justin Watson's are starting to go down. That means Andy must like what he sees. He's doing the same thing with Moore that he did with Tyreek his rookie season. Mecole played a lot early his rookie season, but that's because Tyreek was hurt early and then Sammy got hurt right as Hill came back. Once we were healthy Hardman's snaps dropped significantly towards the end of his rookie year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
The fact that Moore is starting to get open a lot and Mahomes has looked his way a little more the last two weeks makes me think he’s about to break out.
He's taking snaps away from Watson and has worked his way into the 4th WR spot. Hardman has had his snaps decreased over the last 2 games, but I think that's because of his heel injury. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
I’m not sure why people focus solely on yards per target when determining efficiency. JJSS’s strength is as a possession receiver. Of course he’s not going to have a yards per target that rivals Tyreek or Chase.
He’s been a little underwhelming so far, but I still think the best is yet to come. He’s been dealing with injuries and is still getting comfortable in the offense.
Maybe, but I'm not sure he passes the eye test at this point. That separation, or lack thereof, tracks for me. He's just never open. He's a solid unit but he's got little burst. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Maybe, but I'm not sure he passes the eye test at this point. That separation, or lack thereof, tracks for me. He's just never open. He's a solid unit but he's got little burst.
never gets any seperation. . all i heard all draft was how superior of a route runner he was. . he is covered and has horrible insticts. .