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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Mecole Hardman Thread*****
Dante84 06:56 PM 04-26-2019

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Pitt Gorilla 01:28 PM 09-14-2022
Originally Posted by allen_kcCard:
You do move faster laying out if the goal of the action is to get your hands into a place they need to be. You can compare it to sprinters not laying out to get to a finish line, but they don't need their hands out there to do it, a baseball player or nfl receiver do. You most definitely see baseball players lay out all the time, and that is a better comparison here than a sprinter.

The ball was up slightly and out in front of him, if his last step would have been part of the process of getting his body more parallel to the ground with his hands out in front he absolutely could have gotten his hands on it. It would have been an amazing catch, yes, but he had an opportunity to do so, and pulled up on that last step instead of going for it.
Baseball players lay out for first base "all the time"? That would seem to be a perfect time to get somewhere more quickly.
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MIAdragon 01:38 PM 09-14-2022
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Baseball players lay out for first base "all the time"? That would seem to be a perfect time to get somewhere more quickly.
All the time, no but on occasion. To catch the ball in the outfield yes.
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ThaVirus 02:07 PM 09-14-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Well we had Tyreek and he rarely if ever gave up his body for a catch. These guys often run out of bounds to avoid contact. I think it’s at least reasonable to discuss whether they are coached this way. The offense feeds off of YAC, diving kills that.
These weren't situations in which RAC was necessary though.

You're talking about two plays where you either dive and make a 30-40 yard catch, or you don't make the catch at all.

This shouldn't even be a coaching thing; it should be ingrained in their head to do what they can to make that grab, especially if there isn't a defender in front of them.
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-King- 02:08 PM 09-14-2022
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Baseball players lay out for first base "all the time"? That would seem to be a perfect time to get somewhere more quickly.
He never said anything about first base.

Baseball players layout to make catches basically every game.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:52 PM 09-14-2022
Originally Posted by -King-:
He never said anything about first base.

Baseball players layout to make catches basically every game.
Gotcha.
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suzzer99 11:30 PM 09-14-2022
Matt Lane on KCSN had an interesting take on Hardman's issues. He said Hardman doesn't have that little extra burst that Tyreek and really good fast receivers do - where no matter how fast they're running, they can always accelerate for 3-4 steps to catch up to an overthrown ball. So it's not so much that he slows down, but that he can't, or doesn't, speed up.

Not sure how true that is but it squares with the way he looks on the field.
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JPH83 02:41 AM 09-15-2022
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Matt Lane on KCSN had an interesting take on Hardman's issues. He said Hardman doesn't have that little extra burst that Tyreek and really good fast receivers do - where no matter how fast they're running, they can always accelerate for 3-4 steps to catch up to an overthrown ball. So it's not so much that he slows down, but that he can't, or doesn't, speed up.

Not sure how true that is but it squares with the way he looks on the field.
I saw this, I think some guys have the confidence to be facing back and run full tilt, and some like Hardman just don't.
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BWillie 09:33 PM 09-15-2022
Dude played a very good game tonight. Played thru some pain. Came up big. Hats off to this young man and Im one of his biggest haters.
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Pitt Gorilla 09:34 PM 09-15-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Dude played a very good game tonight. Played thru some pain. Came up big. Hats off to this young man and Im one of his biggest haters.
Agreed. Dude showed up big time.
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TwistedChief 09:35 PM 09-15-2022
He’s running real WR routes in trusted situations. It’s definitely a forward evolution for him. Great job.
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Chiefs=Champions 09:36 PM 09-15-2022
Did he "lay out" enough tonight??
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ThaVirus 09:37 PM 09-15-2022
He played well. Toughed it out too.
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Hammock Parties 10:52 PM 09-15-2022
solid game
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Sassy Squatch 10:53 PM 09-15-2022
Had a couple critical plays. Good for him and I hope he can keep it up for the Chiefs going forward. If he and CEH can be consistent with the game changing plays that'd just be fucking fantastic.
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staylor26 10:54 PM 09-15-2022
There were literally people bitching because he didn't catch that ball that Pat threw way behind him :-)
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