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Nzoner's Game Room>7/31/24 Daily Training Camp Thread.
Buehler445 04:23 AM 07-31-2024
Back to work for our guys.
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staylor26 09:08 PM 07-31-2024
Originally Posted by Kman34:
Not good.. This is a concern. Andy will get him in motion and hopefully avoid these situations.
It's literally one fucking rep where one guy knocked him off balance and a LB cleaned him up.

We all just saw this happen to Tyreek in the playoffs. It means nothing.
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staylor26 09:09 PM 07-31-2024
Originally Posted by el borracho:
Looks like Sneed jamming Hill in the playoffs, lol.
Beat me to it.
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Kman34 09:17 PM 07-31-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It's literally one fucking rep where one guy knocked him off balance and a LB cleaned him up.

We all just saw this happen to Tyreek in the playoffs. It means nothing.
I agree but this will be a strategy that will be deployed by defenses.. It really is a risky move because if he beats it.. Its a big play..

Probably an over reaction by me..
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ThyKingdomCome15 10:05 PM 07-31-2024
Originally Posted by In58men:
Yeah that was in his college tape. If he can shake a little contact we already know he can bake. It's quite the gamble for the DB to play that far up. If you don't get a good jam you're in his highlight reel.
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dlphg9 10:19 PM 07-31-2024
Guys are only gonna be able to jam him like that in certain plays and it's gonna lead to him blowing by a guy who is in man coverage against him. Not concerned at all.

In that video that LB isn't able to recover after he does that hit.
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Basileus777 01:23 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Kman34:
I agree but this will be a strategy that will be deployed by defenses.. It really is a risky move because if he beats it.. Its a big play..

Probably an over reaction by me..
Most teams don't have the corners to play much press, it's something that could be an issue in certain matchups, but not a huge deal. No one thinks Worthy is going to be a traditional X receiver.
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Buehler445 05:08 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Basileus777:
Most teams don't have the corners to play much press, it's something that could be an issue in certain matchups, but not a huge deal. No one thinks Worthy is going to be a traditional X receiver.
Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.
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crispystl 05:19 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.
I think we will too. Defenses are going to have to pick their poison against us and they're going to settle for trying to keep everything in front of them and playing bend don't break.
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ThaVirus 05:30 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by In58men:
That’ll make him finding work in the red zone more difficult if we don’t put him in motion
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Dunerdr 05:51 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
That’ll make him finding work in the red zone more difficult if we don’t put him in motion
Andy Reid is the king of pre snap. We have a wizard at Qb and if they put their big physical corner on Worthy to bully him Rice and Kelce have a more favorable matchup. A lot of chicken littles in this thread. Teams tried jamming Tyreek early on. This too shall pass.
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Rausch 05:59 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Yeah and provided everyone is healthy they’re going to have to count on the other corner pressing and staying with Brown.

Honestly I think we’ll see a lot of 2 deep and very little press man. Spags is on our side.
Yup. There's fewer true "shut down" and press man corners than ever. Everyone wants to prevent the deep stuff with zones in the pass happy NFL. Once you put all that speed out there to stay with these Indy Car WR's you get mauled by TE's and the running game.

After adding all this speed and multiple deep threats I would have loved to add a change of pace phat back. Some later round poor man's Gus Edwards type to beat up on DB's.
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Dunerdr 06:01 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Yup. There's fewer true "shut down" and press man corners than ever. Everyone wants to prevent the deep stuff with zones in the pass happy NFL. Once you put all that speed out there to stay with these Indy Car WR's you get mauled by TE's and the running game.

After adding all this speed and multiple deep threats I would have loved to add a change of pace phat back. Some later round poor man's Gus Edwards type to beat up on DB's.
Not many have enough to press Hollywood and Worthy at the same time. Press our 4.22 guy? Heres a 4.3/4 guy. Oh and Rice and Kelce.
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Dunerdr 06:02 AM 08-01-2024
As long as you don't have a one read QB like Miami, press isn't that big of a deal.
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Rausch 06:04 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
As long as you don't have a one read QB like Miami, press isn't that big of a deal.
It is if you get pressed to Belieze like Hill did. It's a lot harder to throw open a WR that's on his ass...
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ThaVirus 06:07 AM 08-01-2024
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Andy Reid is the king of pre snap. We have a wizard at Qb and if they put their big physical corner on Worthy to bully him Rice and Kelce have a more favorable matchup. A lot of chicken littles in this thread. Teams tried jamming Tyreek early on. This too shall pass.
I’m not worried about it, but it seems Reid likes to bring Kelce in motion at the snap and you can’t have both him and Worthy moving at the same time. At some point, Worthy will need to work on not getting manhandled at the LoS on his own.

Also, for the record, Tyreek was like 5’8” 185 to Worthy's 5’11” 165. There is a massive difference in weight/build, and presumably strength, between the two.
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