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Nzoner's Game Room>Let’s talk about the Buffalo Bills
pugsnotdrugs19 04:20 PM 11-10-2024
CBS sending their pre-game show on-site for this one; pretty much unheard of for a regular season game

Chiefs came out healthy today from what I saw. Bills TE Dalton Kincaid left game today with knee injury.

I think Kansas City will bring it for this one, but Buffalo should too. Can’t wait.

Allen has thrown 4 INTs in his past three games, including 2 today.
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Hammock Parties 09:56 AM 11-11-2024
All the pressure is on Buffalo this week.

The whole world is counting on them to knock off the undefeated Chiefs.

Chiefs lose? Meh. They're still the one seed.

If the Bills lose it's proof that the Chiefs are invincible, cannot be stopped and are headed for immortality.
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Red Dawg 09:57 AM 11-11-2024
We are a long way from clinching anything but beating them would be a big step to it.
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St. Patty's Fire 09:59 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk:
With this o-line I'm losing more and more confidence every week because it's clearly in Mahomes head. Not sure how I feel about this one.
the broncos and bucs both have game fucker uppers up front. One of the biggest issues for the bills against us has been a lack of pressure on Mahomes. Hopefully this game is a bit of a get right game for our OL
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Direckshun 10:00 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Isn't Kincaid injured?
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Yes, left early yesterday.

Sounds like Coleman less likely to play than maybe Cooper.
Originally Posted by philfree:
Dude hurt his knee and couldn't finish the game yesterday so he may not play this week.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally.

If Kincaid is injured that really handicaps you against the Chiefs D. It's literally the one thing we don't do super well.

Edit: Dawson Knox is a solid backup TE though.
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tredadda 10:02 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by ForeverIowan:
CEH said on Ryan Clarks podcast he is as healthy mentally and physically as he has been in years. Maybe we see his debut next week? Some fresh legs in the backfield would be a welcomed addition. Love Kareem dude just needs to workload pulled back a bit.
Yeah, he can replace Steele until Pacheco gets back.
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duncan_idaho 10:03 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by philfree:
Dude hurt his knee and couldn't finish the game yesterday so he may not play this week.
Yeah, it's a big swing in the game, for sure.

If he, Coleman, and Cooper all miss the game, you're talking about receiving weapons 1, 2, and 4 (I'd slot Shakir above Coleman) missing. That's punishing.
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Direckshun 10:06 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Yeah, it's a big swing in the game, for sure.

If he, Coleman, and Cooper all miss the game, you're talking about receiving weapons 1, 2, and 4 (I'd slot Shakir above Coleman) missing. That's punishing.
It's crazy how, like, the Chiefs lost their 2, 3, and 4 receivers themselves, and yet they're humming along fine with their 1 playing decently and acquiring a castoff from another team.

Veach and Reid are cheat codes.
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tredadda 10:19 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Or it will just be another close game, lol
Yeah, blowing teams out or getting blown out is something that rarely happens with KC anymore.
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Rainbarrel 10:28 AM 11-11-2024
Knife work is close in, I believe. Unknown to me(Al Swearengen)
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Hammock Parties 10:34 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I have many thoughts about this game.

First of all, this is a playoff game. Win this game, and you're all but assured a first round bye. The Chiefs held so many cards to their chest for the Broncos game they almost lost -- this is what the Chiefs have been building towards. They will unload their entire clip at Buffalo, offensively and defensively. I expect this to be a version of the team we saw in Weeks 1 and 2.

I was a huge fan of what the Bills did this offseason. They are weighed down with so much dead money from previous garbage decisions that they really made super calculated value decisions across the roster. So the roster is still really good -- not championship level good, but really good.

What makes them championship good is Josh Allen, who would be the MVP frontrunner if Lamar didn't exist. He's having to will his team across the finish line time and time again. And he's almost always getting the job done.

The biggest issue, I think, is "are the Bills equipped to attack the Chiefs' weaknesses." And that's (a.) attacking in the passing game with tight ends, and (b.) attacking our tackles in the passrush. And they're 2/2 in that regard.

They absolutely can attack us with Dalton Kincaid, who I felt was a Jimmy Graham type when he came out, but is a little less dynamic but simultaneously more useful than the one-dimensional Graham ever was.

I really like James Cook for this Bills team a lot, but nobody can run on the Chiefs this year. They boast a Chiefs-level WR corps with a lot of guys who can do a few things well, and they depend on Joe Brady to somehow engineer useful plays and on Josh Allen to execute them.

Allen is having to do so much work this year, executing at high levels to keep the Bills at a top-third-of-the-league passing attack. So it's easy to say that if you disrupt Allen, the entire operation falls apart. But it's hard to do: Allen is the least sacked QB in the NFL. Part of that is because they have a good offensive line. The other part is that he's gone the full Cam Newton for parts of the season.

On the other side of the ball, the Bills boast a Chiefs-style DL that gives you a bunch of guys who can do a lot but no world-beaters. (The Chiefs, of course, have one world-beater.) Smoot and Rousseau are going to be problems against Wanya Morris. Von Miller, who knows. He's probably good for a play.

They're middle-of-the-pack against the run, however. I'm guessing we're going to get another game of Kareem chewing up yardage a handful of yards at a time.

I do think the Chiefs can attack this team all over the back seven. They're missing Matt Milano again so I would give them a steady diet of Kelce and Gray (and honestly? I like Peyton Hendershot). In what is clearly a theme for this team, the Bills secondary is packed with players that have upside here and there -- it's a really young group. Benford has had a good run since 2023, but you can attack everyone everywhere. Can the OL keep Mahomes clean enough to attack them?

I love Josh Allen as a player, hate him as an opponent. I have no doubt that Spags can dial up a game plan that perfectly counters the few things the Bills offense does well, but Allen has played well enough this season to become a cheat code against defenses. Can our non-McDuffie CBs hold up in coverage? I bet they are going to struggle a little, which is enough against Allen.

The Chiefs are wounded warriors on the offensive side of the ball, but they have all the weaponry they need to beat the Bills. The lone question there is the biggest one: can the OL keep him clean? I think they're going to struggle there a bit.

I think this is a coinflip game. I don't think either team has a motivation edge, and I don't think Mahomes cares that he's playing in Buffalo. I think both teams have an equal amount of answers for what the other team does. The Bills rely on Allen magic more than the Chiefs rely on Mahomes magic, so I suppose that's an advantage for KC. But I really hate Allen with time in the pocket with Kincaid downfield and other receivers against our corners.

Coin flip.
A fair post from CP's resident doomer.
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Bearcat 10:36 AM 11-11-2024
LOL, stopped at "this is a playoff game".



.....No.
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mr. tegu 10:43 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
LOL, stopped at "this is a playoff game".



.....No.

In the sense that winning this all but assures the first round bye, then it can be looked at as a “playoff win.”
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:53 AM 11-11-2024
Being underdogs feels like the only way you can get four full quarters of focus out of this football in the regular season, not gonna lie.

I get it. There’s nothing fun new or exciting about beating the likes of the Broncos or Panthers for this team. They have one goal and one goal only this year.

When they play lesser teams, I swear, it’s as if they want to be challenged or entertained. I’m not saying it’s a conscientious thing, I just think it comes natural. They wanna stay healthy and fast forward to January already.

Not this week though. They’re being told that they still aren’t better than the Bills by oddsmakers.
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Megatron96 10:59 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:

Not this week though. They’re being told that they still aren’t better than the Bills by oddsmakers.

I know it looks that way, but that's not really how it works for them (among a lot of other things). They have analytics programs that essentially are comparing points differentials for each team, and simply, the analytics say that BUF point differential is greater than KC's. In short, the difference between what they score vs. what they give up is larger than KC's, period.
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Bearcat 11:00 AM 11-11-2024
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
In the sense that winning this all but assures the first round bye, then it can be looked at as a “playoff win.”
Maybe, but they can lose and also be fine. We all know how Mahomes in particular raises his game in the playoffs and if we're saying he should be dropping a shoulder for a few extra yards in this one, I'll pass on calling it a playoff game... and even to a lesser extent, if there are things we can exploit in the 4th quarter or wait for an actual playoff game, I'd opt for the latter every time.

And I know the team will want this one.. I remember Mahomes doing the Jordan leap into the end zone in Cincy and how emotional he was at the end of the Bills game at Arrowhead last season. It won't be just another game for them.
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