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Nzoner's Game Room>Is it too early to start thinking about 2024?
TLO 07:23 PM 12-10-2023
I don't want to give up on this current squad, but I think the evidence is clearly there that this isn't a Super Bowl caliber team.

There's plenty of reason for optimism heading into next season.

What kind of cap room are we working with?

What free agent WR's are likely to be available?

Talk about it here.
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Hammock Parties 09:09 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.
This would be really hard to take.

I almost feel like we'd have to give the rings back.
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Bearcat 09:10 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
We knew how 2018 was going to end, even with Patrick being Patrick.

Deep down, we knew.

The Chiefs ended that regular season very inconsistently, too.

You know now.
I'd take hosting another AFCCG and overtime loss at this point... the NFL expecting to finally be free of the Arrowhead Invitational for a year just to say fuck it, we're going in dry. That's far better than whimpering out in the WC or divisional round.
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Sassy Squatch 09:12 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The difference in speed and energy from the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarters was startling. It made you realize how fucking lazy they played in the first half.

And the offense - shit, what more can be said. None of them are playing well. Literally not a single guy on offense is playing at even 80% of what he's capable of.

They need to be embarrassed.

I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.
We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.
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ThyKingdomCome15 09:13 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It's fine to coast and win.

This is wayyyy different.
That's really what it is. We're resting on our laurels.
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MahomesMagic 09:14 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.
Bengals will be a problem.
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tk13 09:17 PM 12-10-2023
There's still a quarter of the season to go. We have not been the #1 seed every year with Mahomes, we've just been able to have the games go in a way that gave us every game in Arrowhead. I wonder if today makes them go harder after someone like Ertz. Rice keeps improving. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. Plenty of work to do but it's not over.
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KC_Connection 09:19 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The difference in speed and energy from the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarters was startling. It made you realize how ****ing lazy they played in the first half.

And the offense - shit, what more can be said. None of them are playing well. Literally not a single guy on offense is playing at even 80% of what he's capable of.

They need to be embarrassed.

I'd say the Broncos knocking them out of the playoffs should cover it.

It wouldn't bother me a bit.
You noticed that difference too, eh? It was laughable how hard they were playing in the 4th quarter especially compared to the 1st half. That's just unacceptable for this kind of rivalry game against a very motivated Bills team, but it tells you where this team is at mentally.

And I would hope the last month has been enough embarrassment to not have to go through your scenario, but we'll see.

I still have seen nothing that would deter me from the idea that this team's ceiling is still good enough to win a SB, particularly in a league with as few elite QBs as this one has right now. Will they reach it consistently in the playoffs for 4 games? Probably not. But I'd rather give the best QB in the league the chance.
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ThyKingdomCome15 09:20 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Bengals will be a problem.
They'll get all the calls just like the Bills and Packers. They're desperate and the league says it's for business for the Chiefs to lose to bubble teams.
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Chiefnj2 09:20 PM 12-10-2023
You never give up on a season when you are a playoff team in a conference without a dominant team.

There is a chance the Chiefs lose Jones and Sneed and all of a sudden the D isn’t very good. Kelce is already slowing down and they are contractually stuck with an overpriced RT. There is no guarantee next year will be better.
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DJ's left nut 09:21 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
We could probably play significantly WORSE than we have been and still get in. This last slate of games is incredibly weak.
I don't even disagree.

The problem is that the players and coaches realize it as well.

But I don't think this is a team that can flip a switch. Again - they're not as good as they think they are.

I think they'll make the playoffs. But I genuinely wonder if they wouldn't be better served missing them. They're gonna sneak in, hit the nitrous button in the post-season and be surprised to find that they're still just a running a stick Civic out there.
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TEX 09:21 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by tk13:
There's still a quarter of the season to go. We have not been the #1 seed every year with Mahomes, we've just been able to have the games go in a way that gave us every game in Arrowhead. I wonder if today makes them go harder after someone like Ertz. Rice keeps improving. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. Plenty of work to do but it's not over.
This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.
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tredadda 09:22 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by TEX:
This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.
Thanks.
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tk13 09:23 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by TEX:
This year is different. This Chiefs team is not a legit contender. They'll make the playoffs but wont get far. They are who they are and they have been since week 1.
We have the best QB and a top 10 defense. We 100% have a chance.
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ThaVirus 09:24 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
This is a team that lacks focus and discipline. It has all season.

Now they're yelling at coaches and calling out officials for not giving them mulligans on clear penalties.

They need to be humbled. Badly. Players and staff. Superstars and depth guys; coaches and executives. They need their dicks knocked into the dirt in the worst way.

Is it too early to look to 2024? No, not at all. And frankly I'm looking forward to it.
Good Lord. Not you too..
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DJ's left nut 09:24 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
You noticed that difference too, eh? It was laughable how hard they were playing in the 4th quarter especially compared to the 1st half. That's just unacceptable for this kind of rivalry game against a very motivated Bills team, but it tells you where this team is at mentally.

And I would hope the last month has been enough embarrassment to not have to go through your scenario, but we'll see.

I still have seen nothing that would deter me from the idea that this team's ceiling is still good enough to win a SB, particularly in a league with as few elite QBs as this one has right now. Will they reach it consistently in the playoffs for 4 games? Probably not. But I'd rather give the best QB in the league the chance.
Yeah, I'm trying to remember which drive it was specifically but it was completely inescapable at that point. I think it was when we got to 17-14. It was alarming. Night and day shit.

I'd have been less annoyed had they continued to coast.

All they did was prove how little they gave a shit prior to that point.
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