Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - they can't really lose CMC. He's uniquely well-suited for their offense.
He's not a RB in the purest sense of the word - he's an offensive weapon. In an era where elite WRs are getting $35 million, it seems paying $19 million for a guy you can use in the passing game OR between the tackles is a better use of resources.
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I get he is really good but in 8 years of his career he had 3 seasons he played less than 6 games a season on average and a season he played 11. So a 4 year stretch he playing 6.7 games on average. That's HALF his career.
There is a lot of risk involved in a 30 year old RB making $19MM a year.
Sure.
But no risk-it, no biscuit.
You aren't gonna win a SB by playing things safe. At a point, you have to make sure you have the horses and hope they stay healthy.
He IS their Mahomes on offense. Without him, the offense doesn't work nearly as well. They're a 9 win team if he's not on the squad? Maybe 8, maybe 10. But they aren't a SB team.
Is there a lot of risk there? Sure, but if you want guarantees, I can crap in a box and call it guaranteed - I have spare time. Guarantees mean precisely fuck-all in this game. Floors make you relevant in November but the ceiling matters in January.
Kelce is used like a WR but plays TE so he's a screaming bargain. The 49ers actually have a market efficiency in CMC, even as a $19 million dollar "Runningback".
Because other teams are paying $30 million plus for a WR that doesn't have the overarching impact on their offense that he does. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
It’s a crapshoot if you lack testicles, sure.
The Niners didn’t even have a game manager on the roster and yet had the 2nd overall pick.
“Well it all worked out for them anyway.”
lol no it didn’t. Ringless wonders
Yeah - Solomon Thomas over a QB was a fireable offense. And the fact that Lynch took him, IMO, because he played at Stanford is doubly so.
It's one of the low-key worst decisions in league history and nobody ever calls him on it. At worst he gets excused for it with "Well they were going to sign Kirk Cousins..." but what's that have to do with their 2017 draft? And if it WERE the case, why the hell did they give up a 2nd round pick for that overrated pile of crap, Jimmy Grapes?
Oh Garapollo. Y'all remember Hootie's love affair with that piece of crap? Dude came out of exile to follow me around in a Royals thread for saying it was a stupid deal. Said he was going to be a stud for a decade. Grapes just never had the attributes to be a star. Slightly above average mobility, slightly above average arm talent. Nothing of note with regards to decision-making or accuracy. He was just...there. And they pivoted on an entire season worth of planning to trade for him? Assuming it's accurate, it's almost as stupid as not bothering to scout Watson or Mahomes because you were going to sign Cousins a year later anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - Solomon Thomas over a QB was a fireable offense. And the fact that Lynch took him, IMO, because he played at Stanford is doubly so.
It's one of the low-key worst decisions in league history and nobody ever calls him on it. At worst he gets excused for it with "Well they were going to sign Kirk Cousins..." but what's that have to do with their 2017 draft? And if it WERE the case, why the hell did they give up a 2nd round pick for that overrated pile of crap, Jimmy Grapes?
Oh Garapollo. Y'all remember Hootie's love affair with that piece of crap? Dude came out of exile to follow me around in a Royals thread for saying it was a stupid deal. Said he was going to be a stud for a decade. Grapes just never had the attributes to be a star. Slightly above average mobility, slightly above average arm talent. Nothing of note with regards to decision-making or accuracy. He was just...there. And they pivoted on an entire season worth of planning to trade for him? Assuming it's accurate, it's almost as stupid as not bothering to scout Watson or Mahomes because you were going to sign Cousins a year later anyway.
Lynch has had 4 top 10 picks they consist of...
Solomon Thomas
Mike McGlinchey
Trey Lance
Nick Bosa
That is 1 hit in 4, it's another reason I think they are extremely lucky. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
This is one of those situations where it’ll always come back to “well.. they didn’t win a Super Bowl so their decisions sucked”.
I think that ignores a lot of factors, though. People forget that Mitch Trubisky was drafted before Mahomes. Watson was probably ahead of Mahomes on many team’s boards as well.
It’s just as likely that the 9ers draft one of those scrubs and end up in a worse position than the route they took led them to.
I just think there has to be a bottom line. Two of the three QBs in the top 12 picks of that class were studs, and one of them is already on many peoples' all time QB Mount Rushmore. I don't care how ill-regarded the 2017 QB class was regarded in the pre-draft process by talking heads and most GMs. There sat two franchise guys. The 49ers had no QBs at all on the roster at the time.
I can kind of forgive them if they had a veteran game manager in place. I can also forgive them if they already had a young QB on the roster they were intrigued by at wanted to give him a chance. But they had none of that at all.
Solomon Thomas wasn't this amazeballs prospect, either. He was just a step above Tyson Jackson. To me when you're completely QB-less, you've got the high draft pick, and the non-QB you're selecting is debatable as a top 15 pick in many other draft classes, you're an arrogant pile of crap.
And I'm not even a giant Purdy hater. I've seen far worse QBs win Super Bowls, certainly. But pointing to him as a case for Lynch/Rat Jr knowing what they're doing at the QB position is like pointing to a homeless guy who just won the Powerball and saying, "Boy, that guy sure knows all about making money!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
And Nick Bosa was the consensus top talent available. When there's been a judgment call to make, Lynch hasn't made the right one.
I think he's overrated as hell. Not bad - just not good either. He's as mediocre as most of these guys.
He's basically been very lucky, like Fred Warner in round 3. Hitting on their 2 WRs even though that is about to be a problem. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
He's basically been very lucky, like Fred Warner in round 3. Hitting on their 2 WRs even though that is about to be a problem.
i'll give him credit for Aiyuk and even Deebo - I loved Aiyuk but Lynch loved him more than the consensus. Same with Deebo.
Getting those guys where they got them when most considered them 'reaches' at the time, is evidence of solid chops.
Which is why I say he's not BAD. He has wins on his resume and some pretty powerful ones at that. But he has plenty of Ls as well. In the end, he's pretty similar to most middle of the road GMs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
i'll give him credit for Aiyuk and even Deebo - I loved Aiyuk but Lynch loved him more than the consensus. Same with Deebo.
Getting those guys where they got them when most considered them 'reaches' at the time, is evidence of solid chops.
Which is why I say he's not BAD. He has wins on his resume and some pretty powerful ones at that. But he has plenty of Ls as well. In the end, he's pretty similar to most middle of the road GMs.
Kyle Shannahan has saved Lynch’s ass on several occasions. Most notably the Trey Lance disaster.
He literally is Andy Reid from 20 years ago. He’s the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid. The work he’s done with QB’s and his offense in general is very impressive.
Unfortunately for him he punted on the 2017 QB class bc he thought he was getting Kirk Cousins and that has been the one disaster of his career so far. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Kyle Shannahan has saved Lynch’s ass on several occasions. Most notably the Trey Lance disaster.
He literally is Andy Reid from 20 years ago. He’s the best coach in the league not named Andy Reid. The work he’s done with QB’s and his offense in general is very impressive.
Unfortunately for him he punted on the 2017 QB class bc he thought he was getting Kirk Cousins and that has been the one disaster of his career so far.
So-called QB genius wasn't consulted at all by idiot GM when they made the decision to trade up for a QB?
I have a hard time believing that Rat Jr had nothing to do with the Lance pick and it was all Lynch [Reply]
