Originally Posted by RunKC:
Idk about using a high asset on a field stretcher though. The air yards went way down in 2021 after the league used Fangio's cover 2 shell on us.
Defenses are adamant that they absolutely will not give up the deep ball to us under any circumstances. They want Patrick having 8-12 play drives malign him impatient with the opportunity of someone else like a WR or OL making a mistake. That's the only way they've stalled him in his career. That's certainly not changing.
That's why I think a lower cost guy like Mooney with Hardman as the depth option makes sense.
Feels like they want to get back to destroying teams in the intermediate level of the field again like they did in 2022 when they had around 4.5 air yards avg per completion.
Even a Darius Slayton for 5 million would do the vertical decoy stretch stuff that Franklin is supposed to achieve. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Idk about using a high asset on a field stretcher though. The air yards went way down in 2021 after the league used Fangio's cover 2 shell on us.
Defenses are adamant that they absolutely will not give up the deep ball to us under any circumstances. They want Patrick having 8-12 play drives malign him impatient with the opportunity of someone else like a WR or OL making a mistake. That's the only way they've stalled him in his career. That's certainly not changing.
That's why I think a lower cost guy like Mooney with Hardman as the depth option makes sense.
Feels like they want to get back to destroying teams in the intermediate level of the field again like they did in 2022 when they had around 4.5 air yards avg per completion.
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.
Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it iwhen it was there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.
Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it iwhen it was there.
SF had a handful of plays that were disguised/recover single high shifting to cover 2 or just pure cover 1 (on plays they had to blitz at the end).
The Hardman deep ball was one of them. The safety trying to take away an angle from Kelce then shifting to the deep ball and then loses the ball. That's all it takes man. And that's a throw a lot of QB's don't even attempt.
If you're a DC with any level of competency, you're playing cover 2 100% of the time unless you need a key blitz play or two....and you never want either of your safeties with their back turned to the QB or it's over.
Cover 2 with 2 guys deep and everything in front of them is the standard against us
Originally Posted by O.city:
They spent half the year throwing it to backs and tight ends.
Teams didn't take away the deep stuff this year. We didn't have guys catch it when it was there.
I don't have access to the advanced stats like defense alignments played vs the Chiefs but I have heard more than one podcaster/analyst say the Chiefs still saw high %s of 2 high shells and light boxes this past season. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Again, like Worthy, Franklin isn't just a vertical threat. They can operate at every level of the field.
Honestly I don't give a shit about how fast they are in comparison to how well they run routes. We need a guy with experience running the route tree. No idea if that's Worthy but if it is great.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
SF had a handful of plays that were disguised/recover single high shifting to cover 2 or just pure cover 1 (on plays they had to blitz at the end).
The Hardman deep ball was one of them. The safety trying to take away an angle from Kelce then shifting to the deep ball and then loses the ball. That's all it takes man. And that's a throw a lot of QB's don't even attempt.
If you're a DC with any level of competency, you're playing cover 2 100% of the time unless you need a key blitz play or two....and you never want either of your safeties with their back turned to the QB or it's over.
Cover 2 with 2 guys deep and everything in front of them is the standard against us
He's not "shitfting" away from Kelce. He's reacting to the pass, he's already out of position.
If you have the guys that can run thru cover 2, they can't slow you down with it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Honestly I don't give a shit about how fast they are in comparison to how well they run routes. We need a guy with experience running the route tree. No idea if that's Worthy but if it is great.
The speed is an added bonus for me
I would put Worthy behind Adonai AND Sanders at Texas for route running.