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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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DaFace 03:33 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
They will cover $250k, but only about $20B of their $170B is insured/protected. The company was scrambling to pull their money out, but $50B might be just gone.
I'm a little confused here - are you talking about the bank or your friend's company? The bank itself only had about $175B in deposits.

Regardless, HOPEFULLY they didn't tank so quickly that their assets are dramatically lower than deposits. That article says they had about $209B in assets vs. $175B in deposits as of December, so presumably people won't lose their asses TOO badly once everything gets liquidated and distributed. Could be messy during that process, though.
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Buehler445 03:36 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I'm a little confused here - are you talking about the bank or your friend's company? The bank itself only had about $175B in deposits.

Regardless, HOPEFULLY they didn't tank so quickly that their assets are dramatically lower than deposits. That article says they had about $209B in assets vs. $175B in deposits as of December, so presumably people won't lose their asses TOO badly once everything gets liquidated and distributed. Could be messy during that process, though.
Ultimately, hopefully another bank can take over the assets and liabilities with minimal exposure to clients. But that does very little in terms of meeting cash flow requirements for a business
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BigBeauford 03:38 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I'm a little confused here - are you talking about the bank or your friend's company? The bank itself only had about $175B in deposits.

Regardless, HOPEFULLY they didn't tank so quickly that their assets are dramatically lower than deposits. That article says they had about $209B in assets vs. $175B in deposits as of December, so presumably people won't lose their asses TOO badly once everything gets liquidated and distributed. Could be messy during that process, though.
No, talking about the friend's company. Their CFO was there at the 11th hour trying to pull all their money out.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03:40 PM 03-10-2023
SVB is the second biggest collapse in US History with 203 Billion in assets gone.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03:41 PM 03-10-2023
They had to raise 2.25 billion to shore up their balance sheet but no investor was willing to help. Banks make money off of interest rates. If interest rates are high, people don’t wanna take out loans and therefore banks don’t make money
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Buehler445 03:41 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
No, talking about the friend's company. Their CFO was there at the 11th hour trying to pull all their money out.
So your friends company had 50B on deposit there?
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KCUnited 03:42 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
SVB is the second biggest collapse in US History with 203 Billion in assets gone.
Sounds like 25% of that was one startup
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DaFace 03:43 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
SVB is the second biggest collapse in US History with 203 Billion in assets gone.
Again, they're not all gone. There's a big difference between "we can't pay our creditors" and "we literally have no money."
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BigBeauford 03:43 PM 03-10-2023

Only 2.7% of Silicon Valley Bank deposits are less than $250,000.

Meaning, 97.3% aren't FDIC insured.

Ouch. pic.twitter.com/ZCmtOkZr2d

— Genevieve Roch-Decter, CFA (@GRDecter) March 10, 2023

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BigBeauford 03:44 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
So your friends company had 50B on deposit there?
Something along those lines. Smaller Aerospace company based out of Colorado.
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Buehler445 03:52 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
So 250K if the deposits would be covered. So the 97.3% is the percentage of deposits not fully insured, not 97.3% of total deposited funds are not insured.

I think.

Still fucking bad.

Jesus. I’m getting the shakes just thinking about losing the miniscual amount I have uncovered.
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DaFace 03:53 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Something along those lines. Smaller Aerospace company based out of Colorado.
I suspect you're hearing some hyperbolic numbers here. Lockheed Martin only has ~$50B in assets, and they're not exactly a "small startup."
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BigBeauford 03:58 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I suspect you're hearing some hyperbolic numbers here. Lockheed Martin only has ~$50B in assets, and they're not exactly a "small startup."
Christ, I've been saying Billion, it's million not billion. Sorry for the accidental hyperbole.
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DaFace 04:00 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Christ, I've been saying Billion, it's million not billion. Sorry for the accidental hyperbole.
Ha! OK. That makes far more sense. :-)
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BigBeauford 04:03 PM 03-10-2023
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Ha! OK. That makes far more sense. :-)
Yeah and that's honestly way worse. That means way more companies are going to get fucked.
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