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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Kingsley Suamataia Thread*****
Dante84 07:20 PM 04-26-2024
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Sassy Squatch 01:33 PM Yesterday
Yes. Which is why you get the fuck up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
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Mecca 01:34 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Yes. Which is why you get the fuck up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
So you would like to trade 2 1's a 2 and probably a 3 and a 4 to get this player?
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Sassy Squatch 01:36 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Mecca:
So you would like to trade 2 1's a 2 and probably a 3 and a 4 to get this player?
Gladly. Been banging the table for them to do just that since the 2021 draft.
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htismaqe 01:36 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Yes. Which is why you get the fuck up the board and take one of the top prospects available.
To get a plug and play guy, you're probably looking at two first as a starting baseline. History shows you're not much better picking at 18 or 22 as you are at 28 or 32.

The opportunity cost is just too high. This team has to reload through the draft. They can't afford to sell out for one position.
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htismaqe 01:36 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Gladly. Been banging the table for them to do just that since the 2021 draft.
That's just a bad idea. We aren't gonna agree on this.
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Mecca 01:37 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
To get a plug and play guy, you're probably looking at two first as a starting baseline. History shows you're not much better picking at 18 or 22 as you are at 28 or 32.

The opportunity cost is just too high. This team has to reload through the draft. They can't afford to sell out for one position.
A team would probably ask for even more from us since they know those picks aren't going to be in the top 20.
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MahomesMagic 01:38 PM Yesterday
I would think hard on using the 2nd and 3rd on drafting the best tackle prospects again.


We have our top 2 WRs now.
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Mecca 01:40 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I would think hard on using the 2nd and 3rd on drafting the best tackle prospects again.


We have our top 2 WRs now.
Yea...but we have other holes, if you move a bunch of picks for 1 guy we're going to lose depth and that's a real problem.
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MahomesMagic 01:42 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Yea...but we have other holes, if you move a bunch of picks for 1 guy we're going to lose depth and that's a real problem.

We have to have a better o line.

Investing a 2 and a 3 is not outrageous at all.

If we hit on Kingsley and one of the others that frees cap space as we can let Taylor walk.
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O.city 01:53 PM Yesterday
They'll figure it out.

They won't trade up that high for a guy though I doubt.
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htismaqe 01:57 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
We have to have a better o line.

Investing a 2 and a 3 is not outrageous at all.

If we hit on Kingsley and one of the others that frees cap space as we can let Taylor walk.
I think maybe he thought you were talking about packaging a 1, 2, and 3 as part of a trade. I thought that the first time I read it.

If you're talking about continuing kind of what they did with Kingsley, yeah to me, that's the most logical option.
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Wisconsin_Chief 01:57 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Guarantee Andy isn’t messing with any more rookie LTs

Kingsley was the first rookie LT he started, and he was a disaster
Sure feels like this is probably the case. He was never a fan of doing it to begin with, and Kingsley probably caused trauma that won't be reversed.

Mecca mentioned Ronnie Stanley, and I have no idea how I didn't realize he was a free agent. If Baltimore doesn't resign or tag him before free agency, I could really see Veach going balls deep and making that happen. They were willing to pay Trent Williams a record deal, I bet they'd consider a huge deal for a player of his caliber.
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RealSNR 02:05 PM Yesterday
There haven’t been many unlucky things to happen during the Mahomes era, but at or near the top of that list has got to be the Fisher injury
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htismaqe 02:07 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
There haven’t been many unlucky things to happen during the Mahomes era, but at or near the top of that list has got to be the Fisher injury
Yep. Hed probably still be playing.
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MahomesMagic 02:19 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I think maybe he thought you were talking about packaging a 1, 2, and 3 as part of a trade. I thought that the first time I read it.

If you're talking about continuing kind of what they did with Kingsley, yeah to me, that's the most logical option.
Yes.

And I know it is normally dumb to say "I'm going this position this round" but the fact is that tons of great OL year after year get drafted in those rounds.


Keep the 1st for the best overall talent that falls down the board, any position.

Then grab a stud guard if there's a Creed like guy sticking out or if not take two exceptionally talented tackle prospects.

We know the score by now. If Mahomes is upright we win.
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