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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 09:09 PM 10-13-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Paypal is always so weird. They are up and down like Ebay. Some like them. Their PE ratio is still awfully high and I'm not sure how Apple Pay and things like Bitcoin may affect them.

http://www.investors.com/stock-lists...k-cheap-again/

I don't have much on Intuit either but here's some reading.

https://investorplace.com/2017/10/in.../#.WeF4mFuPK70
Look at the charts and get back to me .
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lewdog 09:10 PM 10-13-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
Look at the charts and get back to me .
LOL.

Tell me what you're analyzing then. I am always up for learning.
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Buehler445 09:16 PM 10-13-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Paypal is always so weird. They are up and down like Ebay. Some like them. Their PE ratio is still awfully high and I'm not sure how Apple Pay and things like Bitcoin may affect them.

http://www.investors.com/stock-lists...k-cheap-again/

I don't have much on Intuit either but here's some reading.

https://investorplace.com/2017/10/in.../#.WeF4mFuPK70
Quickbooks online is a pain in the fucking ass. Them selling out of Quicken is probably a good thing. I'm not really sure where they go for giant leaps but if they are taking care of business it will make money.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 09:18 PM 10-13-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
LOL.

Tell me what you're analyzing then. I am always up for learning.
Look at the charts and get back to me . :-)
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lewdog 09:30 PM 10-13-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
Look at the charts and get back to me . :-)
Paypal

Well I guess revenue vs cost looks pretty dang good for 5+ years. Over 10B in 2016 with improved projections in 2017 for revenue. Their gross earnings have stayed roughly about half of their revenue with a strong cash holding. Looks pretty solid from what I can tell and a properly run company without loads of debt. Looks like they are getting some great layout for improved and innovative digital paying system that analysis expect to return greater revenue and projecting the stock to get past $75+.


You might be on to something here.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:31 AM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Paypal

Well I guess revenue vs cost looks pretty dang good for 5+ years. Over 10B in 2016 with improved projections in 2017 for revenue. Their gross earnings have stayed roughly about half of their revenue with a strong cash holding. Looks pretty solid from what I can tell and a properly run company without loads of debt. Looks like they are getting some great layout for improved and innovative digital paying system that analysis expect to return greater revenue and projecting the stock to get past $75+.


You might be on to something here.
Thanks for analyzing for me . I'm too lazy. Price chart shows good momentum upward. And the Market Cap is 82 Billion. Analyst overall have a buy to strong buy rating. now I'd like your analysis on Intuit.
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lewdog 01:22 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
Thanks for analyzing for me . I'm too lazy. Price chart shows good momentum upward. And the Market Cap is 82 Billion. Analyst overall have a buy to strong buy rating. now I'd like your analysis on Intuit.
:-)


I am honestly curious how you evaluate a company. Or how anyone investing in individual stocks evaluates companies. Many ways to do it and I am just reaching the tip of the iceberg on knowing where to start when analyzing. Would love to hear suggestions from anyone.
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scho63 01:57 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
:-)


I am honestly curious how you evaluate a company. Or how anyone investing in individual stocks evaluates companies. Many ways to do it and I am just reaching the tip of the iceberg on knowing where to start when analyzing. Would love to hear suggestions from anyone.
Don't conflate trading analysis with investing analysis. While they can overlap at times, financial analysis of a company rarely if ever relies on a chart.

Trading analysis always relies on charts and rarely on fundamentals, that why traders will buy a very over priced stock on the way up and short an undervalued one on the way down.

Learn to read a 10-K and 10-Q along with knowing some basic tests to run against a balance sheet

Current Assets - Current Liabilities is called the "Acid Test". It's tests a companies true cash position with working capital.

There are a bunch of them.

Also look at how a company has performed against their piers:
-Do they have better or worse margins?
-Is there market share increasing or decreasing?
-What is their yield per employee?

https://quizlet.com/6020906/accounti...s-flash-cards/

You will be able to really analyze a company when you learn some of these. :-)
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:54 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by scho63:
Don't conflate trading analysis with investing analysis. While they can overlap at times, financial analysis of a company rarely if ever relies on a chart.

Trading analysis always relies on charts and rarely on fundamentals, that why traders will buy a very over priced stock on the way up and short an undervalued one on the way down.

Learn to read a 10-K and 10-Q along with knowing some basic tests to run against a balance sheet

Current Assets - Current Liabilities is called the "Acid Test". It's tests a companies true cash position with working capital.

There are a bunch of them.

Also look at how a company has performed against their piers:
-Do they have better or worse margins?
-Is there market share increasing or decreasing?
-What is their yield per employee?

https://quizlet.com/6020906/accounti...s-flash-cards/

You will be able to really analyze a company when you learn some of these. :-)
Dude, you're making it waay too complicated. Pull the stock price chart. If it trends up , buy it. If it trends down , don't buy it. This is the way I've done it for years and well..... I still jerk off swine for a living.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04:04 PM 10-14-2017
Buying individual stocks is still a crapshoot. Look at Walmart. About as solid a company as you can get. In the year 2000 the stock was at $70 in 2016 $66. It's made a run this year up to 86. Between those years I think the low was around 42 and high 87.But why would anyone want to own that ? I guess if you're a day trader and want to click buy/sell all the time theres opportunity but thats even a crap shoot.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04:24 PM 10-14-2017
Mastercard (MA)is making a nice run
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SAUTO 04:39 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
Buying individual stocks is still a crapshoot. Look at Walmart. About as solid a company as you can get. In the year 2000 the stock was at $70 in 2016 $66. It's made a run this year up to 86. Between those years I think the low was around 42 and high 87.But why would anyone want to own that ? I guess if you're a day trader and want to click buy/sell all the time theres opportunity but thats even a crap shoot.
Buy at 42 sell at 85. Repeat in a perfect world
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ChiliConCarnage 07:00 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer:
X is up 7% today.

Looking at two stocks to jump on PayPal (PYPL) and Intuit (INTU)

Any thoughts on these two ?
I own pypl and would like to add but it's on a crazy run up. I'd wait and see. I think earnings are 10/19 and monthlies expire 10/20.

I like all the payment company's. It's like owning a toll booth on the payment highway. Chipotle down and five guys up? Who cares, I get my % cut either way.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:08 PM 10-14-2017
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
I own pypl and would like to add but it's on a crazy run up. I'd wait and see. I think earnings are 10/19 and monthlies expire 10/20.

I like all the payment company's. It's like owning a toll booth on the payment highway. Chipotle down and five guys up? Who cares, I get my % cut either way.
I wish I had got in a year ago. I went ahead and put in a buy order for Monday open.
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ReynardMuldrake 08:36 PM 10-14-2017
I'm really happy with how NVDA has performed this year. I bought in at $104 and it's already north of $190. Gonna hold on to it for a long time.
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