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Nzoner's Game Room>Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
RunKC 08:08 PM 02-09-2025
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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RunKC 03:44 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Serious question for the masses since you brought this up...

Why do people assume (and I'm not saying YOU are specifically but it's pertinent here), that because a class is "bad" at a position, the players all suck at that position?

Because that ALWAYS happens. Just because the OT class is weak, doesn't mean they all suck. LT Simmons, LT Campbell (if he sticks due to arm length), RT Membou, LT Conerly, and LT Banks are all pretty well CONSENSUS 1st round picks. None of them are bad and most all are widely considered to be top-25 players.

The depth of the class is weak, absolutely. There are a few developmental LTs and a few developmental RTs but it's not like last year where it was stronger into the 3rd round.

We should not assume a prospect in this class is somehow less of a prospect than Suamataia because that is simply not true. Conerly is about the same prospect this year as Fautanu was coming out last year from build, to athleticism, to the way they play the game. Fautanu was drafted at #20.
I think the guys you listed outside of Conerly go in the top 18 picks so that’s another conversation.

Fautanu was Daniel Jeremiah’s 11th ranked player and Dane Brugler’s 9th in their final big boards.

Conerly is currently 38th on Daniel Jeremiah’s board and 31st on Dane Brugler’s.

It’s early but I don’t see how Conerly is close to Fautanu as a prospect
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chiefforlife 04:04 PM 02-16-2025
Look, DJ is the best fit and Talent for us via FA. This will happen IMO. This will free up the draft for us to take some weapons, RB TE maybe even WR.

Now if by some chance one of the LTs they like falls to us, you pick him. After the top few choices, it would just be like drafting Kingsley again.

I believe Kingsley will be our LT in the not so far off future. I also believe DJ can hold it down, much better than anyone from last years line.

Of course Veach may pull off something none of us thought possible but outside of that, DJ and Kingsley will be fine. Above average at least.

With no real options in FA and our draft position, this makes the most sense.

Personally, I would love to see J Wills brought in as well. Very low risk but the reward could be huge!
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kccrow 04:05 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I think the guys you listed outside of Conerly go in the top 18 picks so that’s another conversation.

Fautanu was Daniel Jeremiah’s 11th ranked player and Dane Brugler’s 9th in their final big boards.

Conerly is currently 38th on Daniel Jeremiah’s board and 31st on Dane Brugler’s.

It’s early but I don’t see how Conerly is close to Fautanu as a prospect
Brugler had Fautanu at 19 this time last year.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/527...kings-top-100/

He moves around on guys as he hears stuff from NFL guys.

We'll have to see what happens over the next couple of months until he releases The Beast.
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Sassy Squatch 04:12 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
Look, DJ is the best fit and Talent for us via FA. This will happen IMO. This will free up the draft for us to take some weapons, RB TE maybe even WR.

Now if by some chance one of the LTs they like falls to us, you pick him. After the top few choices, it would just be like drafting Kingsley again.

I believe Kingsley will be our LT in the not so far off future. I also believe DJ can hold it down, much better than anyone from last years line.

Of course Veach may pull off something none of us thought possible but outside of that, DJ and Kingsley will be fine. Above average at least.

With no real options in FA and our draft position, this makes the most sense.

Personally, I would love to see J Wills brought in as well. Very low risk but the reward could be huge!
No he's not, because he can't stay healthy.
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Sassy Squatch 04:13 PM 02-16-2025
Couldn't even make it one fucking game before going back out with injury. Why the fuck would you want to bring him back?
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Easy 6 04:27 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Couldn't even make it one fucking game before going back out with injury. Why the fuck would you want to bring him back?
You love to completely ignore any facts that don't back you up

Hadn't played football in a year, gets off the couch/trainers table, shows up here and gets what was it, 2 whole practices before starting against a division rival?

He got royally screwed, the team owes it to themselves and him to take another look in better circumstances
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pugsnotdrugs19 04:37 PM 02-16-2025
I feel for Humphries on some level.

ACLs are always real hard a big guy. They’re never going to get back to peak in the first year, if they ever do.
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Sassy Squatch 04:38 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
You love to completely ignore any facts that don't back you up

Hadn't played football in a year, gets off the couch/trainers table, shows up here and gets what was it, 2 whole practices before starting against a division rival?

He got royally screwed, the team owes it to themselves and him to take another look in better circumstances
6/9 seasons he missed significant games. Four knee injuries that ended his season. A back injury as well. Fuck any notion of bringing him back, as a long term starter or as a bridge. He's old, broken down, and apparently lazy as fuck to boot.
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Sassy Squatch 04:42 PM 02-16-2025
Maybe it's not a coincidence that the guy who was inactive his entire rookie season for being lazy as fuck is constantly getting injured?
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ThyKingdomCome15 04:43 PM 02-16-2025
They say Cam Robinson is the top LT in FA. I'm sure he's better than Thuney at LT but surely we can do better.
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pugsnotdrugs19 04:56 PM 02-16-2025
Unless it’s a healthy Ronnie Stanley, Andy better just wrap his mind around whoever the LT is will need a lot more fucking help than he’d like to give and just do that.

Idc who really at this point, that’s what it is.
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Sassy Squatch 04:58 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Unless it’s a healthy Ronnie Stanley, Andy better just wrap his mind around whoever the LT is will need a lot more fucking help than he’d like to give and just do that.

Idc who really at this point, that’s what it is.
Would've been nice to have that revelation before week 2 last year.
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pugsnotdrugs19 05:01 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Would've been nice to have that revelation before week 2 last year.
What’s more maddening is the rationale they give is, “we want as many people in the route, as quick as possible”

When I swear we gave up more lousy first down completions on check and releases to TEs/RBs than anything all year. Defenses just forget to account for them.
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RunKC 05:04 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Would've been nice to have that revelation before week 2 last year.
What the fuck do you want them to do dude? You have 3 options here:

1. Pay a flawed veteran. Flawed bc of their subpar play or bc they can’t ever stay healthy.

2. Draft a project and deal with said projects struggles

3. Trade significant resources to move up to the teens to get one of the top LT prospects and weaken the team as a whole due to trading valuable assets.

They pick at the end of the rd every year and there are never anything but flawed band-aids in FA. They’ve tried 1 and 2. Want them to try option 3 now?

Seriously what the fuck do you want them to do?
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Sassy Squatch 05:08 PM 02-16-2025
Originally Posted by RunKC:
What the fuck do you want them to do dude? You have 3 options here:

1. Pay a flawed veteran. Flawed bc of their subpar play or bc they can’t ever stay healthy.

2. Draft a project and deal with said projects struggles

3. Trade significant resources to move up to the teens to get one of the top LT prospects and weaken the team as a whole due to trading valuable assets.

They pick at the end of the rd every year and there are never anything but flawed band-aids in FA. They’ve tried 1 and 2. Want them to try option 3 now?

Seriously what the fuck do you want them to do?
I mean, the post you're responding to was about the team leaving Kingsley out to die against Hendrickson. I dunno, maybe don't do that with our next project.
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