The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.
Arrest warrant and potential charges:
Spoiler!
BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1
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Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.
Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.
TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.
#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6
#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..
Originally Posted by staylor26:
This is so fucking stupid, and typical of you.
The video had very little impact on anything. Of course a video of a man putting his hands on a woman is a game changer. It's juicy. A video of a car wreck that wasn't even deadly, and shows nobody getting hurt, isn't going to move the needle at all. To this day, I remember exactly what the Ray Rice and Hunt videos looked like. I can hardly even remember the Rice video already.
I cant even believe you're trying to make this reeruned ass argument.
Did you forget that he was filmed fleeing the scene as well?
Originally Posted by staylor26:
When the videos of Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt were released, it changed EVERYTHING. It was so bad that it meant the teams had to move on after trying to get away with a slap on the wrist.
The Rashee Rice video changed absolutely nothing.
The reaction tells you everything you need to know about how bad the video is from an optics perspective. Everybody knew there was an accident/wreck. Seeing it doesn't really have an emotional impact. Seeing somebody commit domestic violence is the kind of breaking news video that makes thing significantly worse.
Video of Kamara and his possee beating the fuck out of a guy didn't even move the needle much in terms of national outrage, but I'm supposed to believe a video of a car wreck did? :-)
The Ray Rice video, sure. The Hunt video wasn’t the same, especially given the fact that it’s been said that the front office actually release Kareem because he lied about the incident, not because of the incident or video itself. [Reply]
Also, note the story of the alleged photographer assault. That story was out in the wind for like two weeks before charges were suddenly dropped but it didn’t reach near the level of nationwide exposure that the car crash did.
Some say "fleeing". Others he was casually walking away. Maybe to find help or slightly concussed so not in the right frame of mind :-) the other point could be the driver climbed over him to get out :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Did you forget that he was filmed fleeing the scene as well?
The Ray Rice video, sure. The Hunt video wasn’t the same, especially given the fact that it’s been said that the front office actually release Kareem because he lied about the incident, not because of the incident or video itself.
You mean the video that had Chiefs fans, who actually know what Rashee looked like, arguing over which guy, if any, was Rashee?
Most people didn't even see that video. Nobody cares about the actual video.
And holy fuck you actually believe the Chiefs PR excuse? Of course they aren't going to acknowledge that they cut Hunt because of the optics after the video was released. You're SO fucking stupid dude. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Some say "fleeing". Others he was casually walking away. Maybe to find help or slightly concussed so not in the right frame of mind :-) the other point could be the driver climbed over him to get out :-)
Just out for a casual, brisk stroll up I-45 lol [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Its crazy how those in sports media amped this up, which was done because the Chiefs being without a promising WR is great click bait.
I mean even Chiefs podcasters have speculated about 8 games. It's ridiculous. Are you going to suspend played who are driving under the influence of alcohol or pot because they "could" have killed somebody? To me that's what you have to look at here if you are the NFL. It's an auto accident. The guy that got hurt didn't want Rice to be charged with assault. Its one thing to make an example out of domestic abuse cases, if you choose to make an example out of Rice you better be willing to suspend anyone for 8 games with impaired driving.
What's crazier is how some fans in a desperate attempt to never be on the wrong side of the media wanted it to be real. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Also, note the story of the alleged photographer assault. That story was out in the wind for like two weeks before charges were suddenly dropped but it didn’t reach near the level of nationwide exposure that the car crash did.
Wonder why..
Because he was never even fucking charged and there were witnesses and the owner contradicting the photographers story. This is also just a reeruned fucking argument from you.
And again, an assault on video isn't remotely comparable to a fucking car wreck and guys walking away from it. Car wrecks with minor injuries have no real emotional impact just because it's on video, even if they're fleeing the scene too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
No one on this board could even agree which guy was Rashee. This is true
I eat this reeruns stupid arguments for breakfast.
I haven't even gone into the fact that this started as a comparison of Rice and Sutton.
No reasonable person sees a car wreck with minor injuries and has a stronger emotional reaction than reading a headline about a man strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out the fucking window. Like what are we even talking about here? This is such a stupid argument. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I eat this reeruns stupid arguments for breakfast.
I haven't even gone into the fact that this started a comparison to Rice and Sutton.
No reasonable person sees a car wreck with minor injuries and has a stronger emotional reaction than reading a headline about a man strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out the ****ing window. Like what are we even talking about here? This is such a stupid argument.
She may have been involved in street racing suttons car then wrecked it, and deserved what she fucking got. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
There's a huge difference between beating a woman on camera and drinking recklessly. That's all I have to say about it.
There's also a huge fucking difference between strangling a woman and throwing her out the fucking 3rd story window off camera and driving recklessly on it. The video doesn't change the drastic difference in the acts. [Reply]
Thanks to this thread I went back and watched the crash video again. I think I am scarred for life! I don't know if I will ever be able to get in my car again without the fear of death on the freeway.
We should completely prosecute and punish people based on what could have happened instead of what actually did happen.
End of sarcasm
I hope the civil suits get done quickly so we can move on from this. We have heard the arguments multiple times. Wash, rinse, repeat. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You mean the video that had Chiefs fans, who actually know what Rashee looked like, arguing over which guy, if any, was Rashee?
Most people didn't even see that video. Nobody cares about the actual video.
Hmm.. I wonder which one could be Rashee..
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And holy fuck you actually believe the Chiefs PR excuse? Of course they aren't going to acknowledge that they cut Hunt because of the optics after the video was released. You're SO fucking stupid dude.
I have no reason not to. No one would have begrudged them cutting Hunt for any multitude of reasons after that video was released. They had no reason to lie.
Originally Posted by staylor26: Because he was never even fucking charged and there were witnesses and the owner contradicting the photographers story. This is also just a reeruned fucking argument from you.
And again, an assault on video isn't remotely comparable to a fucking car wreck and guys walking away from it. Car wrecks with minor injuries have no real emotional impact just because it's on video, even if they're fleeing the scene too.
Huh. Sounds like a video may have changed things..
Originally Posted by staylor26:
No reasonable person sees a car wreck with minor injuries and has a stronger emotional reaction than reading a headline about a man strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out the fucking window.
I never made this claim.
And before you hit “submit reply”, I’m not “acting like it” either. [Reply]
You know you're getting your ass handed to you when you respond to all those paragraphs with individual sentences. Your argument is so fucking dumb and weak. [Reply]
