MVS was one of those had a semi good senior year and got drafted in the 5th round. He also was in the 55th percentile for bench press, so he's pretty weak. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
The more I watch Worthy, the more I'm petrified that the kid is just another Hardman. I know he has a more proven resume but even a texas fan I saw talking about him said "he's not a route runner".
Right now Franklin, Mitchell and Coleman are the guys I most favour. And I'm waiting to see what Leggett, Polk and Baker do at the combine. If Ladd runs a fast time then maybe I could see it.
<3% of football fans know how to evaluate a players route running ability, so pretty much anyone that acts like they know how good a route runner someone is has heard it from someone else and more than likely the person they heard it from doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.
*High-energy athlete with wicked foot speed and lateral twitch out of his stance.
Can keep speed while using curvilinear acceleration and bend to sear through breaks.
Stop-and-start, speed, and flexibility amount to devastating upside as a separator.
Manipulative route runner who actively weaponizes speed to bait DBs into fading upfield.
Can masterfully throttle up into stems and use tempo modulations to tug DBs off kilter.
Versatile WR with a vast route tree, elite sinking capacity, and freedom on breaks."
Hmm seems like your friend doesn't know what he's talking about or you just made up this whole story, so you can use it as a reason not to draft the kid.
I haven't seen anything that questions his route running. It's actually the opposite and is listed as a strength in pretty much every write up I see. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
<3% of football fans know how to evaluate a players route running ability, so pretty much anyone that acts like they know how good a route runner someone is has heard it from someone else and more than likely the person they heard it from doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.
*High-energy athlete with wicked foot speed and lateral twitch out of his stance.
Can keep speed while using curvilinear acceleration and bend to sear through breaks.
Stop-and-start, speed, and flexibility amount to devastating upside as a separator.
Manipulative route runner who actively weaponizes speed to bait DBs into fading upfield.
Can masterfully throttle up into stems and use tempo modulations to tug DBs off kilter.
Versatile WR with a vast route tree, elite sinking capacity, and freedom on breaks."
Hmm seems like your friend doesn't know what he's talking about or you just made up this whole story, so you can use it as a reason not to draft the kid.
I haven't seen anything that questions his route running. It's actually the opposite and is listed as a strength in pretty much every write up I see.
Oh damn looks like we've got a Worthy groupie on the forum :-) ..listen whoever Veach, Andy and Pat like then that will be that. The dude I saw talk about Worthy's route running is from a video on youtube called "Why Xavier Worthy is the riskest player In the nfl draft". Now on second watch the guy is a sooner fan not a texas fan. But he does seem to have watched them a bunch. And when I watch Worthy's tape most of the clips are basic routes and punt returns. If you think he's Randy Moss #2 then knock yourself out buddy we'll see if the Chiefs agree :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Oh damn looks like we've got a Worthy groupie on the forum :-) ..listen whoever Veach, Andy and Pat like then that will be that. The dude I saw talk about Worthy's route running is from a video on youtube called "Why Xavier Worthy is the riskest player In the nfl draft". Now on second watch the guy is a sooner fan not a texas fan. But he does seem to have watched them a bunch. And when I watch Worthy's tape most of the clips are basic routes and punt returns. If you think he's Randy Moss #2 then knock yourself out buddy we'll see if the Chiefs agree :-)
Dipshit thinks Worthy is amazing because some guy in his basement said so on his blog.
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
MVS was one of those had a semi good senior year and got drafted in the 5th round. He also was in the 55th percentile for bench press, so he's pretty weak.
Franklin still smaller and weaker than MVS. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Oh damn looks like we've got a Worthy groupie on the forum :-) ..listen whoever Veach, Andy and Pat like then that will be that. The dude I saw talk about Worthy's route running is from a video on youtube called "Why Xavier Worthy is the riskest player In the nfl draft". Now on second watch the guy is a sooner fan not a texas fan. But he does seem to have watched them a bunch. And when I watch Worthy's tape most of the clips are basic routes and punt returns. If you think he's Randy Moss #2 then knock yourself out buddy we'll see if the Chiefs agree :-)
Not really a fan boy. I don't know enough about recruiting or all the little intricate details that you need to look for to tell if a guy is going to be good or not. However I do know that I like guys with height, speed, and consistent production in college. I really don't have much interest in a player that was shit up until his SR year and then has a good final year.
Also I had no idea what the write ups said about Worthy's route running. However, I wasn't surprised when everything I read said the exact opposite of what you said, because you're usually pretty full of shit. [Reply]
Javon Baker, UCF
Jermaine Burton, Alabama
Jalen Coker, Holy Cross
Keon Coleman, Florida State
Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
Jacob Cowing, Arizona
Ryan Flournoy, Southeast Missouri State
Troy Franklin, Oregon
Anthony Gould, Oregon State
Lideatrick Griffin, Mississippi State
Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
Jha'Quan Jackson, Tulane
Cornelius Johnson, Michigan
Xavier Legette, South Carolina
Luke McCaffrey, Rice
Ladd McConkey, Georgia
Jalen McMillan, Washington
Bub Means, Pittsburgh
Adonai Mitchell, Texas
Malik Nabers, LSU
Rome Odunze, Washington
Ricky Pearsall, Florida
Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington
Brenden Rice, USC
Tayvion Robinson, Kentucky
Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, Georgia
Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
Jamari Thrash, Louisville
Devaughn Vele, Utah
Devontez Walker, North Carolina
Malik Washington, Virginia
Tahj Washington, USC
Xavier Weaver, Colorado
Jordan Whittington, Texas
Isaiah Williams, Illinois
Johnny Wilson, Florida State
Roman Wilson, Michigan
Xavier Worthy, Texas
Saturday, March 2nd, 1pm ET – Quarterbacks, Wide Receivers, Running Backs! [Reply]
"Worthy is a threat to beat coverage deep, using both his speed on verticals and his quickness out of the break as a dangerous route runner to get open." [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Not really a fan boy. I don't know enough about recruiting or all the little intricate details that you need to look for to tell if a guy is going to be good or not. However I do know that I like guys with height, speed, and consistent production in college. I really don't have much interest in a player that was shit up until his SR year and then has a good final year.
Also I had no idea what the write ups said about Worthy's route running. However, I wasn't surprised when everything I read said the exact opposite of what you said, because you're usually pretty full of shit.
I merely echoed what a guy who has watched Worthy said. Is his opinion not as valid as the scouting reports you referenced? Or do you just want to be a petulant child who can't handle differing opinions? :-) [Reply]
"Worthy is a threat to beat coverage deep, using both his speed on verticals and his quickness out of the break as a dangerous route runner to get open."
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
The more I watch Worthy, the more I'm petrified that the kid is just another Hardman. I know he has a more proven resume but even a texas fan I saw talking about him said "he's not a route runner".
Right now Franklin, Mitchell and Coleman are the guys I most favour. And I'm waiting to see what Leggett, Polk and Baker do at the combine. If Ladd runs a fast time then maybe I could see it.
I'm a big Longhorns fan and there's things I didn't like about Worthy's game, but he is a very good route runner. He also played most of his junior year with a broken hand. He had one of the lowest drop rates in the Big XII this season with his hand healed and he also played with a toughness this season you wouldn't expect for a player his size. He's also an elite return man...so I don't think it'd be a horrible pick if we took him.
