And no matter how much better they are in 2018, they'd still be better with Peters. Which by deduction means that losing Peters is a loss, which is the argument.

Right now you have hope and a prayer, and you're acting as if that's more substantial than a proven commodity.

The Chiefs MIGHT be better defensively in '18.

As of right now, the only player that they've added that is PROVEN to be a commodity is Hitchens. I suppose you can add Berry, but that's kind of cheap considering he's always been on the roster.
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Might. MIGHT be better. Regardless, they'd STILL be even better WITH Peters. Which is the point, that losing Peters is a downgrade any way you slice it.
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And right now you're assuming your proven commodity will play at the same level as last year on a hope and a prayer. But it doesn't matter because, guess what, he's gone.

So why don't all of you :-) about it, or at least take it out of the Mahomes thread.

Thank you.
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Uh, that's what I was saying. But we will still be a better defense this year than last year, with or without Peters
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Do you have some interesting Mahomes news to share? Something new and Mahomes related to talk about?

No? Ok. So then we'll talk football. You don't have to read it.

And "my proven commodity" has a 3 year pattern of substantial success. That's a proven, identifiable pattern of success. If you don't like the conversation, that's a you problem.

I don't know why some of you get your panties in a twist at the suggestion that not every move makes the Chiefs better.
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Because this is a thread dedicated to Mahomes news, not Peters. People come here to read about Mahomes, not Peters.

So I'm sure for someone that hasn't visited in awhile and looking for Mahomes news, they would probably be disappointed in 3 pages of shit about a guy that isn't even on the team anymore.

But do whatever jackass bullshit you do. I'm cool with it.
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Whaaaa. Cry baby.

I didn't bring up Peters. Someone else did and i commented on his assertion. BFD. You chose to participate in the conversation. A couple of you decided to turn a comment into a debate. Don't bitch out on me now. No one made you read or write shit.

Quit acting like such a fucking victim.
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How about both of you :-). Either find a Peters thread or start a new one.
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Who are you?

You know what keeps these kind of things going? Stupid useless comments from random people like you.
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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...atrick-mahomes

Here's an article on Mahomes. Now :-).
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The Chiefs will be a better run defense without Marcus Peters.

Run defense was the biggest problem.

Also you're being a baby.
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:-)

Because when a team struggles to stop the run, it's because of the CB's.

Do you even football?
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Cheap? What's cheap about factoring in the return of somebody who didn't play last year?

Getting Berry back is huge. Adding Fuller is huge. Hitchens is big. A full season of Ragland, Speaks, Ford etc. I absolutely expect the defense to be better.
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I never made the argument that i don't expect the defense to be better. The original conversation was regarding whether or not Peters would be missed. His turnover rate was at a blistering pace. The odds of being able to replicate that are little to none. The defense will miss the turnovers.

Again, no matter how much better other pieces may play, the defense would always have been better with Peters along side them. They downgraded in that DB slot.

You can argue whatever you want. What you can't argue is that David Amerson is an upgrade to Marcus Peters. And Fuller has a lot to prove.
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PM's privates is thankful for the distraction.
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