Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
You’re the one that has lied and misrepresented my position while not acknowledging how stupid your take was that Mike White was going to take the Jets to the playoffs.
He failed. Take the L.
As for video games haven’t played them in over a decade. But you sound triggered by the evil “ video games”. Maybe if you weren’t a miserable old dude you wouldn’t be so worked up what other people do to entertain themselves.
I don’t play but if people enjoy a game good for them.
Live and let live.
I'm shocked, actually, that you don't play video games with most of your spare time, based on your ideas of what Veach should or shouldn't do, and what's important.
I think what's important is winning Super Bowls, and my apparently outdated thinking lined up pretty exactly with what Veach did and...won two straight Super Bowls. So if that's outdated thinking, cool by me.
All you do is project, bub. Like you're on a middle school playground. You might as well just type, "I know you are but what am I?"
I don't remember predicting that Mike White was going to take the Jets to the play-offs. I probably said something like-they have a better chance with White than Wilson. And that's true. Wilson's a dumpster fire. You keep equating it as me saying White is something great, but being better than a dumpster fire doesn't mean he's any great prize.
Anyway, let's not ruin the draft post.
You like Mitchell.
Fair enough.
I don't know if Coleman's game is going to translate in the NFL. Some of those type of receiver DO, but an awful lot don't. We'll see. [Reply]
Troy Franklin
Brian Thomas Jr.
Keon Coleman
Xavier Worthy
Xavier Legette
Adonai Mitchell
(That's the order I'd rank them)
Legette last for me, dawg.
I just can't get with zero production for four years. I mean what IS that? I mean NONE.
I think I like Mitchell a touch more than Worthy, but I could see Worthy working in Andy's offense just fine.
Coleman I'm not sure about. I'm not sure he's going to translate well. Is he Mike Evans? Or just another plodder? I dunno. Guess I'll make my mind up when he runs at the combine. Or not.
Franklin, Thomas, Mitchell, Worthy,
Coleman then Legette.
But I think Devontez Walker might be the best fit of all of them. Honestly, I'm not too far in, though. I've been busy and haven't been looking into guys as much this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
First off grandpa, before you make up more bullshit let me refresh your memory.
I said Zach Wilson did not get a fair chance in NY when he had Lafleur's reeruned brother. You insisted the OC was fine but that OC the got FIRED a few weeks after you declared he was good.
Take the L on that one as no one has hired him since.
Wilson is a nice buy low project. That's what I said and nothing can be proved on that point until he gets out of NY.
Your great QB that you loved sucks. You fell in love with Mike White so please :-).
And your Mike Glennon wannabe didn't take the GREAT JETS to the playoffs.
Take another L gramps.
Now moving on to WR's, I don't have my board ready yet. Need to do more work so 5 years from now when I criticize someone's new JAGami Brown my board from 2024 is on point.
You asked what I like?
I am starting to zero in on Adonai Mitchell and Keon Coleman for our 1st round pick.
Adonai is my guy as of now.
I am starting to zero in on Adonai Mitchell and Keon Coleman for our 1st round pick.
Adonai is my guy as of now. Why in the HELL is Keon Coleman on your list? :-) Adonai Mitchell will not be in our range to acquire. You are reaching! [Reply]
Troy Franklin for the win unless, we move Sneed and move further up the draft ladder for Nabbers or Thomas or Bowers. We will see. Lot of time left until draft with combine and free agency coming up. Gonna have to see how this plays out at this point in time. :-) [Reply]
Troy Franklin
Brian Thomas Jr.
Keon Coleman
Xavier Worthy
Xavier Legette
Adonai Mitchell
(That's the order I'd rank them)
This is tough but ill take a crack at it.
1. Troy franklin - huge team fit, developed route tree, good improvisation. Can separate or make contested catches when needed. A true X with speed and yac ability.
2. Xavier worthy - another huge team fit but for different reasons. more dynamic version of hardman that can track a deep ball. May be the best kick/punt returner in the draft as well. I see alot of zay flowers in him without the domestic violence issue.
3. Keon coleman - good size, physical and dynamic after the catch. Can make spectacular catches and is a plus punt returner too. Isnt afraid to make plays over the middle of the field. I think he is a great fit for what the chiefs have been doing the last couple of years, but Not sure if we need a guy like him, as he seems to do alot of the same things rashee rice does well.
4. Brian Thomas - good size, but doesn’t seem to be as physical as his size indicates he would be. Excellent at adjusting to the ball and ripping off big gains. Alot of similarities to Legette, including one year of good production. The only reason i rank him above Legette is due to him being a couple years younger. Aside from that i think they would be 4a and 4b.
5. Xavier Legette - big strong physical target that will separate often but also win most 5050 balls. Seems to have a knack for finding soft spots in zone after plays break down, and seems like he almost cant be bullied at the LOS. I would have him and brian thomas ranked 3rd and 4th here if i didnt take team fit into account. He isnt quite as well rounded as franklin or coleman.
6. Adonai Mitchell - I could be way off here, but i feel like almost all of his production happened on contested catches and blown coverage. I just don’t feel great about how his skillset translates to the nfl. Seems sluggish with the ball in his hand and seems to lack confidence in and out of breaks.
Adonai Mitchell may be the only one on this list i would be mad about in the first round. (I know i know “xAvIeR lEgEtTe iSnT a FiRsT rOuNd ReCeIvEr”)
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
This is tough but ill take a crack at it.
1. Troy franklin - huge team fit, developed route tree, good improvisation. Can separate or make contested catches when needed. A true X with speed and yac ability.
2. Xavier worthy - another huge team fit but for different reasons. more dynamic version of hardman that can track a deep ball. May be the best kick/punt returner in the draft as well. I see alot of zay flowers in him without the domestic violence issue.
3. Keon coleman - good size, physical and dynamic after the catch. Can make spectacular catches and is a plus punt returner too. Isnt afraid to make plays over the middle of the field. I think he is a great fit for what the chiefs have been doing the last couple of years, but Not sure if we need a guy like him, as he seems to do alot of the same things rashee rice does well.
4. Brian Thomas - good size, but doesn’t seem to be as physical as his size indicates he would be. Excellent at adjusting to the ball and ripping off big gains. Alot of similarities to Legette, including one year of good production. The only reason i rank him above Legette is due to him being a couple years younger. Aside from that i think they would be 4a and 4b.
5. Xavier Legette - big strong physical target that will separate often but also win most 5050 balls. Seems to have a knack for finding soft spots in zone after plays break down, and seems like he almost cant be bullied at the LOS. I would have him and brian thomas ranked 3rd and 4th here if i didnt take team fit into account. He isnt quite as well rounded as franklin or coleman.
6. Adonai Mitchell - I could be way off here, but i feel like almost all of his production happened on contested catches and blown coverage. I just don’t feel great about how his skillset translates to the nfl. Seems sluggish with the ball in his hand and seems to lack confidence in and out of breaks.
Adonai Mitchell may be the only one on this list i would be mad about in the first round. (I know i know “xAvIeR lEgEtTe iSnT a FiRsT rOuNd ReCeIvEr”)
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Your instincts are correct here.
Adonai has too much testosterone and would make the next few years for KC too easy and not allow Mahomes to be a heady game manager.
