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The release date is now December 15, 2017.
The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com
“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Well, it appears that Luke has done a lot of research in regards to the Jedi Order and he has a copy of the Journal of the Whills, which existed on Jedha and had protectors such as Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus, both of whom appeared in Rogue One.
Luke may have realized that this is either part of a prophesy that he read about or that Rey is actually a physical manifestion of The Force itself, with unlimited power.
What I can't quite gather, and I'm sure this is revealed by 'deep dive' canon kind of stuff, is how Anakin isn't the end all be all yet 3 generations further down the road Rey would be.
Anakin was supposedly immaculately conceived, right? Just straight up raw midichlorian shoved in a womb. And yet he wasn't 'a physical manifestation of The Force itself...'
So why would Rey be when she's essentially just a watered down version? I mean I guess we don't know exactly what her origin is; perhaps her family tree has an even more impressive boost in there somewhere, but I'm not sure how much more impressive you can get that essentially being godlike as Anakin was. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
What I can't quite gather, and I'm sure this is revealed by 'deep dive' canon kind of stuff, is how Anakin isn't the end all be all yet 3 generations further down the road Rey would be.
Anakin was supposedly immaculately conceived, right? Just straight up raw midichlorian shoved in a womb. And yet he wasn't 'a physical manifestation of The Force itself...'
So why would Rey be when she's essentially just a watered down version? I mean I guess we don't know exactly what her origin is; perhaps her family tree has an even more impressive boost in there somewhere, but I'm not sure how much more impressive you can get that essentially being godlike as Anakin was.
I honestly don't know, unless Yoda was right when he said "A prophesy that misread could have been".
That said, Rey's sudden Force powers in TFA could be easily explained if somehow, her Force powers were beyond any and all that came before, which would definitely chill the "Rey's a Mary Sue" crowd.
All I do know, for certain, is that supposedly, Lucasfilm expects a portion of thefan base to be pissed off when the answers to some mysteries are revealed in Episode VIII.
Even some at Lucasfilm were extremely happy that Abrams was hired for Episode IX because he's expected to get things "back on track", for whatever that's worth.
Rian's film is said to be the darkest of all the films, which for me, will probably make it among my favorites. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ragged Robin:
you mean other than giving away the general plot narrative to the whole movie and the emotional surprise event that happens? gee I wonder :-)
The entire trailer was misdirection. Many of the scenes don't line up.
It's like watching a preview for next week's episode of Mad Men, which were completely and totally worthless because of the lack of context behind the words. [Reply]
Damn! I've been sick with a cold the past few days and forgot to grab my seats at Arclight Hollywood on Thursday, December 14th, so I got stuck with seats in the 2nd row of the 9pm showing.
I just purchased much better seats at AMC Burbank for Saturday, which is the same thing I did for Rogue One (Thursday at Arclight, Saturday in Burbank).
I'll probably catch it in IMAX at Universal Studios the following week. It would be too much to take in on the first viewing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I think it's possible that Luke is talking about Rey when he says "I've seen this kind of raw power before and I wasn't afraid of it then, but I am now".
I also think it's possible that Rey was dropped off on Jakku, not to protect her, but to protect the galaxy.
Would that make her a Palpatine? I'd say he had never seen raw power like that before the second Death Star or since. I guess he might be talking about Kylo/Ben, but I wouldn't assume to think he's stronger than what Darth Sidious was. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Would that make her a Palpatine? I'd say he had never seen raw power like that before the second Death Star or since. I guess he might be talking about Kylo/Ben, but I wouldn't assume to think he's stronger than what Darth Sidious was.
Considering Rey kicked the shit out of Kylo with zero training, it’s safe to say that she’s way more powerful.
As to her family, I’m not sure but it’s become clear that Ben Solo/Kylo Ren was well aware of her before she knew about it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Considering Rey kicked the shit out of Kylo with zero training, it’s safe to say that she’s way more powerful.
As to her family, I’m not sure but it’s become clear that Ben Solo/Kylo Ren was well aware of her before she knew about it.
Agreed, but to be fair, Kylo had just taken a shot from Chewie's bowcaster in his ribs and was completely emotionally compromised from just murdering his father (and that's not to take away from what Rey did in any aspect. She wiped the floor with him).
And to take the Palpatine thought just a little further - Jakku was Sheev Palpatine's homeworld. After he came to power, he used Jakku for his most secret experiments, and it was where he docked his ship the Imperialis, the ship he was going to take to traverse the Unknown Regions to find and meet up with the Super Star Destroyer the Eclipse in an attempt to discovered what they learned on their journey, and unlock the secrets of the Unknown Regions.
Hmmm.
EDIT - strike that, Jakku wasn't Palpatine's homeworld, only a planet he held in high regard. I believe he considered it strong with the dark side, that's why he had hidden bases there. [Reply]