Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.
The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.
I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.
I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.
Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.
We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:
2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5
Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.
Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT [Reply]
Is there any chance that Pacheco bounces back next year? My understanding is that he will have internal hardware below the knee for the rest of his life. If that’s so, will he ever have the same speed that he had prior to the injury? Wishing him the best, but this team desperately needs explosion from the running back position. [Reply]
Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
Is there any chance that Pacheco bounces back next year? My understanding is that he will have internal hardware below the knee for the rest of his life. If that’s so, will he ever have the same speed that he had prior to the injury? Wishing him the best, but this team desperately needs explosion from the running back position.
Sure, but it doesn't matter or change anything.
Chiefs need young dynamic running backs with speed and vision. One of the reasons defenses can shut down our offense is because nobody fears our running backs. Even if our backs have great games, it probably means the game is close, which is an advantage to our opponent. [Reply]
I watched every ASU game this season and Skattebo is 100% legit. And after his junior year I wouldn't have said he'd be any better than Cody Schrader. He was a totally different dude this year.
If he runs somewhere in the mid 4.5s or better he won't be there when we pick in the 2nd. He's got the most insane contact balance I've ever seen, he's like the love child of a gyroscope and a manhole cover. And we know how Veach feels about yards after first contact guys and guys who break tackles. [Reply]
You guys have like 10 backs going in the first two rounds which is nuts. I hope it happens because it means we will land some great guys and important positions. [Reply]
I think they have to take a RB with either 63 or 66. It’ll start to dry up early 3rd but all the guys you really love will likely be gone by our late 3rd.
Jeanty, Hendrickson and Hampton seem like first rd locks to me. Judkins and Johnson are 2nd rd locks. The end of the 2nd rd through the mid 3rd. Around 62- 75 I think you’ll see a run of like 3 or 4 guys picked. Harvey, Sampson and Neal for sure. Some team will pick the bigger back like Skattebo or Ollie Gordon in that range too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I think they have to take a RB with either 63 or 66. It’ll start to dry up early 3rd but all the guys you really love will likely be gone by our late 3rd.
Jeanty, Hendrickson and Hampton seem like first rd locks to me. Judkins and Johnson are 2nd rd locks. The end of the 2nd rd through the mid 3rd. Around 62- 75 I think you’ll see a run of like 3 or 4 guys picked. Harvey, Sampson and Neal for sure. Some team will pick the bigger back like Skattebo or Ollie Gordon in that range too.
So DJ has a February mock with all 3 going in the 1st and now they're "locks"? Dude, Jeanty is the only fucking RB that is a "lock" to go in the 1st round. Just stop. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
You guys have like 10 backs going in the first two rounds which is nuts. I hope it happens because it means we will land some great guys and important positions.
I have 4 that I think I'd take in the first 2 rounds. Might squint to try to fit a 5th in there, but that's it.
I don't have a slew of 1st/2nd round RBs in this draft.
So DJ has a February mock with all 3 going in the 1st and now they're "locks"? Dude, Jeanty is the only ****ing RB that is a "lock" to go in the 1st round. Just stop.
Unless he kills a guy or shockingly runs a 4.5 40, I cannot see a world where Hendrickson isn’t a 1st rd pick. I’d bet a strong wager that he is a first rd pick.
Hampton is a Harbaugh guy through and through. That might be the best bet for a team to pick so far. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Unless he kills a guy or shockingly runs a 4.5 40, I cannot see a world where Hendrickson isn’t a 1st rd pick. I’d bet a strong wager that he is a first rd pick.
Hampton is a Harbaugh guy through and through. That might be the best bet for a team to pick so far.
Henderson's injury history combined with the positional value alone is enough for him not to be a 1st round "lock". There's doubt whether he can even be a lead back, but sure, he's a "lock" in the 1st :-)
When is the last time we had not 1, not 2, but 3 RBs go in the 1st round? Other than Jeanty, the other 2 likely aren't even going in the top 20. How the fuck can they be "locks"? The only guys that can be considered "locks" are those with 1st round grades.
You do this EVERY YEAR. You have 40 1st round locks every draft. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Henderson's injury history combined with the positional value alone is enough for him not to be a 1st round "lock". There's doubt whether he can even be a lead back, but sure, he's a "lock" in the 1st :-)
When is the last time we had not 1, not 2, but 3 RBs go in the 1st round? Other than Jeanty, the other 2 likely aren't even going in the top 20. How the **** can they be "locks"? The only guys that can be considered "locks" are those with 1st round grades.
You do this EVERY YEAR. You have 40 1st round locks every draft.
I sincerely hope you’re right bc Treveyon Hendrickson on this team would change the entire complexity of this offense and I and a lot of others would love him.
But we all get caught up in it. Some of us thinking 3 RB’s can go rd 1, others thinking Colston Loveland has any chance in hell of falling to 31 :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I sincerely hope you’re right bc Treveyon Hendrickson on this team would change the entire complexity of this offense and I and a lot of others would love him.
But we all get caught up in it. Some of us thinking 3 RB’s can go rd 1, others thinking Colston Loveland has any chance in hell of falling to 31 :-)
Do you really not understand the difference between a hypothetical ("would you take Loveland if he fell to 31?") and you declaring 3 RBs in the 1st a "lock"?
And his name is Henderson, not "Hendrickson". [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Do you really not understand the difference between a hypothetical ("would you take Loveland if he fell to 31?") and you declaring 3 RBs in the 1st a "lock"?
And his name is Henderson, not "Hendrickson".
Yeah my phone is auto correcting to Hendrickson bc it’s one of my top contacts last name unfortunately. Yeesh.
I actually need to ask you about Elijah Arroyo since you’re a Miami fan and he fits perfectly in the this conversation of maybe being worth a first rd pick at 31 even though he’s currently a 2nd rd value. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yeah my phone is auto correcting to Hendrickson bc it’s one of my top contacts last name unfortunately. Yeesh.
I actually need to ask you about Elijah Arroyo since you’re a Miami fan and he fits perfectly in the this conversation of maybe being worth a first rd pick at 31 even though he’s currently a 2nd rd value.
I love Arroyo. When I get around to making my annual 1st round targets thread, he'll be on the list. If we want him, we're going to have to take him at 31 or after a trade down IMO.
Worthy, Rice, and Arroyo would be just an amazing young group of weapons that complement eachother perfectly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
Is there any chance that Pacheco bounces back next year? My understanding is that he will have internal hardware below the knee for the rest of his life. If that’s so, will he ever have the same speed that he had prior to the injury? Wishing him the best, but this team desperately needs explosion from the running back position.
I’m hopeful he’ll play well in a contract year, he needs to prove his value after that injury. [Reply]
