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notorious 02:40 PM 12-05-2024
Sources: Eric Bieniemy out after one season as UCLA's offensive coordinator

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources...174950381.html

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Eric Bieniemy’s UCLA tenure lasted a season.

The Bruins are moving on from Bieniemy, sources told Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger. The former Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator and NFL running back joined UCLA’s staff in 2024 as the offensive coordinator and assistant head coach following the hire of Deshaun Foster as the team’s head coach.

UCLA went 5-7 in 2024 and was 3-6 in the Big Ten. The Bruins averaged 5.4 yards a play and scored just 18.4 points per game. Only eight teams across the top level of college football averaged fewer points than the Bruins and UCLA scored more than 20 points just twice all season.

Bieniemy, 55, interviewed multiple times for NFL head coaching positions while he was the Chiefs’ offensive coordinator. He joined Andy Reid’s staff in 2013 when Reid became the Chiefs’ head coach and was the team’s running backs coach through the 2017 season. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 2018 as Patrick Mahomes became the team’s starting quarterback.

However, Bieniemy never got a head coaching job in the NFL and moved on from the Chiefs after the 2022 season. Five NFL teams had job openings that offseason and he interviewed for just one.

Bieniemy became the offensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders in 2023, but he spent just one season with the team as the organization went through wholesale changes following the season. Washington’s new ownership group changed the coaching staff and hired Dan Quinn as the team’s head coach with former Arizona Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury serving as the offensive coordinator for No. 2 overall draft pick Jayden Daniels.

Before coaching for the Chiefs, Bieniemy was the offensive coordinator at his alma mater, Colorado, for two seasons and had served as an assistant coach with the Minnesota Vikings. It’s unclear just where Bieniemy’s next coaching stop will be and it’d have been hard to fathom four years ago that Bieniemy would be leaving his third job in three seasons at the end of 2024 instead of being the head coach of an NFL team.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 11:11 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
People think because they could see EB jumping up and down on the sidelines getting mad that he was some kind of disciplinarian. And because Nagy doesn't do that, he's soft.

It's pure fantasy.

Everywhere he's gone, complaints from players and other coaches have followed.

The guy isn't a disciplinarian, he's just an asshole.
Yeah.

This isn't some defense of Nagy, Bienemy just wasn't very good and we couldn't wait to get rid of him. Kinda the same way we can't wait to get rid of Nagy. They both suck.
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htismaqe 11:13 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Yeah.

This isn't some defense of Nagy, Bienemy just wasn't very good and we couldn't wait to get rid of him. Kinda the same way we can't wait to get rid of Nagy. They both suck.
The only place we differ is that they both suck. I think it's much more likely they just have little impact in the grand scheme of things. This is Andy's offense and Pat's team. That's really all there is to it.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 11:19 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The only place we differ is that they both suck. I think it's much more likely they just have little impact in the grand scheme of things. This is Andy's offense and Pat's team. That's really all there is to it.
Honestly I'm with you on that too. I've been saying.

If our offense is rolling, it's Andy and Pat's brilliance.
If our offense is struggling, it's always the OC's fault.

Andy's OC will forever be the scapegoat even though it is and always will be Andy's show.
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chiefzilla1501 11:33 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sorry but LOTS of people are suggesting that, especially on social media. Even here you see a ****ton of "fire Nagy" and then this bring back EB shit.

As for what happens to Reid coaches after they leave, that even further reinforced that it's Reid (and Mahomes) that are the true engine here, not the figurehead at OC.

I have yet to see any evidence in this thread proving the assertion that EB is some great motivator. People keep saying it but they can't provide a single instance where it actually happened.

I'm not anti-EB. I'm anti-double standard. And I'm sure as shit anti making shit up. Which is exactly what all this is.
These are the same idiots calling for Andy reids head. I take zero stock in those weird discussions outside of cp. I'm pretty sure close to no one here thinks eb should be anything more than an assistant to Nagy.

Your best example that eb can't discipline is based on his stint at Washington and UCLA which were doomed for failure. He is not a playcaller and was probably over his skis. So was Kafka. That doesn't give you the information that he is not a good assistant despite being a good RBs coach for many years. Right now best info we have is that Head coach and OC are probably not for him.

You can blame it on all kinds of things but all of us can see that our offense, despite our super bowl success, has not been clicking the past 2 seasons, make lots of costly mistakes, and we see guys like jawaan and wanya making the same technical errors week after week, snap after snap. I don't think anyone is saying EB is some great motivator. But he is a known hardass and maybe that's a piece that complements an offensive staff that seems very player friendly.

Personally I think eb will be just fine as long as he picks the right role and he stays away from playcalling. We've just ruled out a lot of situations that are bad fits. I wouldn't mind that right role being in KC... Assuming the mahomes relationship is salvagable.
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htismaqe 11:39 AM 12-06-2024
I'm not opposed to bringing EB back in some capacity, even OC. I just think it's silly to assume he's gonna "turn things around". He's not that guy and his entire career has proven it.

And for the record, my first submission that he's not a disciplinarian comes from well before his time in KC. When he was implicated in a scheme to get hookers and drugs for CU recruits.
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chiefzilla1501 11:41 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
Honestly I'm with you on that too. I've been saying.

If our offense is rolling, it's Andy and Pat's brilliance.
If our offense is struggling, it's always the OC's fault.

Andy's OC will forever be the scapegoat even though it is and always will be Andy's show.
Yeah I never understood that. Andy runs the playcalling. When we succeed, as we usually do, that's Andy. When we don't thats Andy also. Nagy is fine. But that doesn't mean our overall coaching staff couldn't be better
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htismaqe 11:44 AM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Yeah I never understood that. Andy runs the playcalling. When we succeed, as we usually do, that's Andy. When we don't thats Andy also. Nagy is fine. But that doesn't mean our overall coaching staff couldn't be better
It absolutely could be better. But EB doesn't make them better.
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ChiTown 12:03 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It absolutely could be better. But EB doesn't make them better.
Yep. If the Chiefs are interested in improving their Coaching Staff (which I'm all for), I don't believe that starts with re-hiring EB.
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chiefzilla1501 12:17 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I'm not opposed to bringing EB back in some capacity, even OC. I just think it's silly to assume he's gonna "turn things around". He's not that guy and his entire career has proven it.

And for the record, my first submission that he's not a disciplinarian comes from well before his time in KC. When he was implicated in a scheme to get hookers and drugs for CU recruits.
When the main weakness in the team is discipline, I think he can turn that one aspect around. He may have weaknesses in some areas, but that's not one of them. He comes off as wishy washy and unorganized off the field but all indications is that he is militant about details on the field. That's the kind of discipline we need. Reid and nagy can very well handle the bigger picture stuff with managing players. They can handle the creativity. Eb just needs to focus on militantly consistent execution. Nothing else. This screams of a guy who can thrive while focusing mostly on running and blocking schemes.
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ChiTown 12:31 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
When the main weakness in the team is discipline, I think he can turn that one aspect around. He may have weaknesses in some areas, but that's not one of them. He comes off as wishy washy and unorganized off the field but all indications is that he is militant about details on the field. That's the kind of discipline we need. Reid and nagy can very well handle the bigger picture stuff with managing players. They can handle the creativity. Eb just needs to focus on militantly consistent execution. Nothing else. This screams of a guy who can thrive while focusing mostly on running and blocking schemes.
The main weakness isn't discipline. Our main weaknesses would be injuries to WR's/CB, some bad OL pieces, an inability to get to the QB on D, and a pretty obvious downturn from Kelce.
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T-post Tom 12:34 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
We all wanted those draft picks Bearcat :-)

And to the EB detractors. If EB's influence was so minimal, then why did Andy have him meet with the players before the AFC championship game and go over schemes with them? :-)
Aren’t you the amoeba-brained moron that suggested EB is being racially profiled? :-)
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Woogieman 12:37 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Nagy inherited a depleted corps offensive skill players. Shitty WRs, a declining Kelce. A revolving door at LT.

Again, find independent evidence that Bienemy is so great. You won't find it.
I made no mention or of, or comparison to Bienemy, I made a simple observation. I never thought Bienemy was the brains behind the offense, but there has been degradation of the offense since he left...much of it due to the departure of Hill, Fisher, Swartz, maybe Brown. But there has also been, imho, a severe lack of ingenuity, a staleness to the offense, that a new OC would surely like to put a stamp on if they were interested in a HC job, or even trying to keep their existing job. It's Andy's band, but I sure would like to see the new lead guitar player shred a solo every now and then.
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UChieffyBugger 12:37 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I'm not an EB detractor. I'm a realist.

Andy has had all kinds of guest motivators, some of them wers even from other teams. It means nothing.
So who else has he invited to speak to the team and install plays then? :-)
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UChieffyBugger 12:39 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
Aren’t you the amoeba-brained moron that suggested EB is being racially profiled? :-)
Bwahaha :-)
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ThrobProng 12:42 PM 12-06-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
When the main weakness in the team is discipline, I think he can turn that one aspect around. He may have weaknesses in some areas, but that's not one of them. He comes off as wishy washy and unorganized off the field but all indications is that he is militant about details on the field. That's the kind of discipline we need. Reid and nagy can very well handle the bigger picture stuff with managing players. They can handle the creativity. Eb just needs to focus on militantly consistent execution. Nothing else. This screams of a guy who can thrive while focusing mostly on running and blocking schemes.
Nothing motivates people like being yelled at by a guy who is simultaneously "militant about details", and completely inept in every other facet of his job.
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