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Hammock Parties 02:20 PM 04-24-2023

Trade compensation, per sources:

Jets get:
🏈Aaron Rodgers, pick No. 15, a 2023 5th-rd pick (No. 170).

Packers get:
🏈Pick No. 13, a 2023 2nd-rd pick (No. 42), a 6th-rd pick (No. 207), a conditional 2024 2nd-rd pick that becomes a 1st if Rodgers plays 65 percent of the plays. pic.twitter.com/Q2vUMfyZGH

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 24, 2023

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Chief Pagan 09:02 PM 04-24-2023
Originally Posted by Stewie:
Packers got a lot for a player they didn't want and who didn't want to play for them.
You could say the same about the Texans and the Seahawks...
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Rainbarrel 05:21 AM 04-25-2023
NFC to AFC QB conversion not ringing with success
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MahomesMagic 05:33 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Maybe, but I doubt it.

Look at the end of their season in 2022; with no actual QB they lost their last 5-6 games, but their defense didn't allow any team including BUF and MIA to score more than about 21 points. And look at their offensive weapons. They have a lot of talented receiving weapons, a possible top-10 WR in Garrett Wilson, a top-10 RB in Breece Hall. A top-10 OL, iirc.

And then they have a good coaching staff. I won't say they're top-5, but they're probably top-10.

It's going to be hard for them to be bad this year.
Their OL was shit last year. They have some interesting pieces that were injured but assuming they are top ten is a big leap.

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

I loved Breece and was higher on him than most pre-draft but he's coming back from a nasty injury.

I'll be happy if jets split with Buffalo this year.
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jettio 07:21 AM 04-25-2023
Jets fans might get a lesson about how a team's defense can be overrated when the other team does not need to score much to win the game.

Jets opponents might go into games next season with much better offensive game plans, focus and effort than was needed last year.
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Mecca 09:14 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Iconic:
Honestly Mahomes is just better than Rodgers. You switch their respective teams for the past 3 seasons and Mahomes probably wins at least one ring over there. I don't even think Rodgers makes it past the Bengals/Bills as a Chief.

Rodgers gets so many excuses made for him but even when GB did supply him with help he almost always came up short. Not saying Rodgers is shit, just that he's kind of a fucking choker.
That isn't the point, Rodgers was Mahomes before Mahomes, people forget how good that dude was a decade ago. Rodgers was the best QB I had ever seen until Mahomes came along.

And for a front office to have that player and literally shit on his opinion is pretty terrible.
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Mecca 09:15 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Their OL was shit last year. They have some interesting pieces that were injured but assuming they are top ten is a big leap.

Garrett Wilson is a good player but is not a top ten WR.

I loved Breece and was higher on him than most pre-draft but he's coming back from a nasty injury.

I'll be happy if jets split with Buffalo this year.
He had 1000+ as a rookie WR lets not underplay how good he'll probably be.
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bigjosh 09:21 AM 04-25-2023
No matter what the packers lose this trade, because they are pretty terrible at drafting anyone but OL and DBs


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MahomesMagic 09:23 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
He had 1000+ as a rookie WR lets not underplay how good he'll probably be.
I know, I had him in FF.

But a lot of that was volume, they didn't have much else.

He's good but he's not a top ten WR yet.
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Skyy God 09:24 AM 04-25-2023
Ray Ratto goes long on the Jets:

“This can't work in the end, not necessarily because he is 39-year-old Aaron Rodgers, but because they are the New York Jets, a team that courts failure, has slept with failure, and is in a common-law relationship with failure.”
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Direckshun 09:37 AM 04-25-2023
I think this marriage has one year in it to work. Starting next year, it collapses and Rodgers goes the Full Rodgers again.

The Jets absolutely crushed the draft last year, so it's worth watching. But, I think the Chiefs and Bengals are shoulder-to-shoulder atop the AFC right now, with the Jets and Bills knocking on the door.
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Direckshun 09:42 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I think this marriage has one year in it to work. Starting next year, it collapses and Rodgers goes the Full Rodgers again.

The Jets absolutely crushed the draft last year, so it's worth watching. But, I think the Chiefs and Bengals are shoulder-to-shoulder atop the AFC right now, with the Jets and Bills knocking on the door.
Where I think the teams are right now (pre-Draft, pre-DeAndre Hopkins, pending QB situation in Baltimore):

Chiefs/Bengals

Bills
Jets


Ravens (w/ Lamar)
Jaguars

Chargers/Dolphins
Broncos

Steelers

Patriots
Titans/Ravens (no Lamar)


Raiders
Browns


Colts



Texans
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Marcellus 09:44 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That isn't the point, Rodgers was Mahomes before Mahomes, people forget how good that dude was a decade ago. Rodgers was the best QB I had ever seen until Mahomes came along.

And for a front office to have that player and literally shit on his opinion is pretty terrible.
He got shit on because of his attitude. You think GB's front office was just literally ignoring Rodgers? It gets to a point where when the player wants to run the show you have to make a choice. And they didn't draft Love because the relationship with Rodgers was great, they knew this was coming they just waited too long to pull the band aid off. Every off season was Rodgers drama played out in media. They guy is a cancer.

And no matter how much you want to cry about GB's front office they didn't throw all those INT's in the NFCCG's the last 4 times they made it.

Rodgers has been 100% the issue in all those games. And I say this where much like you Rodgers was my favorite player for many years until he went total douchebag and choke artist at the same time.
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wazu 10:10 AM 04-25-2023
A really good breakdown on the trade and what should be expected of Aaron Rodgers. To me the main bullet in this article is that as far as the trade goes, this can very conservatively be considered the equivalent of trading a #5 overall pick to get 39-year-old Rodgers.

in the most ideal passing situations (unpressured on early downs) last year, Aaron Rodgers ranked:

25th in EPA/att
27th in success rate
28th in yds/att

this was a huge decline from the prior 2 seasons when he ranked #1 and #7 in the NFL

in 2022 instead of buying time to make a…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) April 25, 2023

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FloridaMan88 10:12 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That isn't the point, Rodgers was Mahomes before Mahomes, people forget how good that dude was a decade ago. Rodgers was the best QB I had ever seen until Mahomes came along.

And for a front office to have that player and literally shit on his opinion is pretty terrible.
The Packers with Rodgers is the cautionary tale of how to blow your opportunity with a generational QB.

Not drafting a WR or offensive skill position player in the first round during his time in Green Bay, never doing anything in free agency, etc.
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Mecca 10:15 AM 04-25-2023
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
He got shit on because of his attitude. You think GB's front office was just literally ignoring Rodgers? It gets to a point where when the player wants to run the show you have to make a choice. And they didn't draft Love because the relationship with Rodgers was great, they knew this was coming they just waited too long to pull the band aid off. Every off season was Rodgers drama played out in media. They guy is a cancer.

And no matter how much you want to cry about GB's front office they didn't throw all those INT's in the NFCCG's the last 4 times they made it.

Rodgers has been 100% the issue in all those games. And I say this where much like you Rodgers was my favorite player for many years until he went total douchebag and choke artist at the same time.
His attitude came because they shit on him, he went public with it and hurt his reputation because he couldn't get anywhere. It's weird how so many people just think it's all Rodgers fault.
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