If you don't have a guy like Mahomes to constantly challenge the vets and show the young guys how it's done, it's really hard to not wear out your welcome as a head coach.
It just happens. Too many moving parts from year to year. Even the best coaches can hit a bad luck in the personnel department. You grow older. The league changes around you and your way isn't as novel to the team as it once was. You just end up needing a change of environment.
I mean, sure, it's nice as a franchise if you don't have to hire new coaches every 3 seasons, but you also don't want to just stick with Marvin Lewis for 15 years. That's not good either.
Mike Tomlin in a league that asks the question, "What have you done for me lately?" is turning into Marvin Lewis. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
If you don't have a guy like Mahomes to constantly challenge the vets and show the young guys how it's done, it's really hard to not wear out your welcome as a head coach.
It just happens. Too many moving parts from year to year. Even the best coaches can hit a bad luck in the personnel department. You grow older. The league changes around you and your way isn't as novel to the team as it once was. You just end up needing a change of environment.
I mean, sure, it's nice as a franchise if you don't have to hire new coaches every 3 seasons, but you also don't want to just stick with Marvin Lewis for 15 years. That's not good either.
Mike Tomlin in a league that asks the question, "What have you done for me lately?" is turning into Marvin Lewis.
I swear I thought about Marvin Lewis as well.
Another thing, how many seasons without a playoff win did it take for the Pats to move on from Belichick? I mean if past success buys you time, Tomlin certainly shouldn't have that much more than Belichick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Dude, nobody gives a fuck about those SBs when you haven't won a playoff game in almost a decade. If anything, an organization like that should see that this isn't good enough, because they have standards.
I disagree.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I swear I thought about Marvin Lewis as well.
Another thing, how many seasons without a playoff win did it take for the Pats to move on from Belichick? I mean if past success buys you time, Tomlin certainly shouldn't have that much more than Belichick.
Not every situation is the same. We don’t have the full scope of all the behind-the-scenes bureaucracy and politics.
Rumors out of New England are that Kraft wanted to keep Brady while Belichick wanted to move on. I’m inclined to believe that after they watched Brady win another ring in Tampa and that weird ass documentary Kraft put out. That could easily have caused a rift that led to a somewhat premature firing. [Reply]
Regardless, most people agree that it was time to move on either way based on the performance on the field, and they've won a SB more recently than the fucking Steelers.
But then again, you're the same dipshit that was defending Belichick less than a year ago. You claimed he could replace Veach at GM seamlessly, and you even tried to argue that his drafts haven't been fucking terrible.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
And why Kraft fired Belichick is also irrelevant.
Regardless, most people agree that it was time to move on either way based on the performance on the field, and they've won a SB more recently than the fucking Steelers.
In a world with elite QBs claiming most Superbowls, you can't base a coaches record off how recent they won a SB. This is the only stat that justifies and should justify why Tomlin is a coach and BB is not.
Last two years(neither team had consistency at QB)
BB - 12-22
MT - 19-15 [Reply]
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
In a world with elite QBs claiming most Superbowls, you can't base a coaches record off how recent they won a SB. This is the only stat that justifies and should justify why Tomlin is a coach and BB is not.
Last two years(neither team had consistency at QB)
BB - 12-22
MT - 19-15
All I'm seeing are 2 coaches that should both be fired :-)
Also, last 2 years seems pretty arbitrary when we're talking about coaches that have been there for 10+ years.
The fact that the Steelers haven't even won a playoff game in almost a decade while Belichick has won two SBs since is absolutely relevant. [Reply]
The Steelers have only had 3 coaches since 1970!!! Legendary!!!
More stupid shit. The Steelers are a great franchise because they have 6 fucking Super Bowls, not because they hold onto their stupid coaches until they croak. [Reply]
