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SHOWTIME 07:12 AM 11-06-2023
Looks like we catch a break not having to face Goedert. He's out for the next four weeks with a fractured forearm.

Eagles’ TE Dallas Goedert has a fracture in his forearm and will undergo an MRI on Monday to determine if there is any further damage, as well, per sources. Either way, Goedert is set to miss time and is an injured reserve candidate. pic.twitter.com/rd9Lnw1fsA

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) November 6, 2023

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staylor26 02:30 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
If you're not buying the things I have to say than I don't know if you'll buy any explanation for the Eagles/Vikings game that you will buy.
:-)

So you have excuses for every single example of the Eagles defense not being some juggernaut that the Chiefs can't manage to score against?

You're probably right. I'm not buying all of your excuses. Sorry.
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MahomesMagic 02:38 PM 11-06-2023
I’m starting to think they are load managing Toney.

Reid needs him for the playoffs and that’s when the isolation/focal plays going to Skyy switch.


So we’re going to have to win with defense, running the ball and Mahomes managing the game till then.
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PAChiefsGuy 03:01 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I’m starting to think they are load managing Toney.

Reid needs him for the playoffs and that’s when the isolation/focal plays going to Skyy switch.


So we’re going to have to win with defense, running the ball and Mahomes managing the game till then.
Seriously doubt that. They had high hopes for him before the season started. He simply hasn't earned the snaps.

I don't know why and Reid will never bash a player publicly so who knows... He did great in limited snaps last game though so maybe we will see him more against the Birds
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Sassy Squatch 03:07 PM 11-06-2023
Who actually has earned snaps? Rice and maybe Watson? Going into the season the Chiefs made it clear they believed Toney had the most potential upside of this current room and yet his workload has diminished on a weekly basis for seemingly no reason. He's far from the only WR struggling and yet he seems to have had his workload taken away at a disproportionate rate.
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Lzen 03:12 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I haven't watched much Eagles this year, but I saw a ton of the Eagles last year.

And, man. No team in the NFL played that Hurts play-action better than KC. Bolton had it read correctly 100% of the time in the Super Bowl.

What's been super shocking to me is that Tranquill, these past two games, is doing everything Bolton does. He doesn't go downhill as decisively, but he does play with better depth.

Just an absolutely absurd free agency addition by Veach. Tranquill has allowed the defense to do everything it was doing under Bolton without skipping a beat.
I have been saying since early in the season that I think that Tranquill signing will prove to be the best one for the Chiefs. I was hoping he would be playing and complementing Bolton, not playing in place of him. Bolton is awesome and I'll be glad when he is able to come back healthy but, Tranquill has filled in nicely.
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MahomesMagic 03:14 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Seriously doubt that. They had high hopes for him before the season started. He simply hasn't earned the snaps.

I don't know why and Reid will never bash a player publicly so who knows... He did great in limited snaps last game though so maybe we will see him more against the Birds
Toney hasn’t played earned snaps but Skyy has?!

What has MVS done to earn snaps other than be the highest paid WR on our roster?
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Direckshun 03:30 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
How many tush pushes will we see?
Man, I want to see the Chiefs embrace the "zipper" technique (go to 11:39) and see how they hold up.

We don't quite have the bodies along the DL to fully stand up to the tush push, I don't think. Almost all of our DTs are 3-techs.

But I'd love to see it executed.
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Direckshun 03:33 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Luckily, PHI isn't playing very well on either side of the ball. Their OFF DVOA=+13.4%, good enough for just 7th, and defensively they're really underperforming, with a DEF DVOA of just +3.7%, a bottom-of-the-middle tier 21st in the league, and just two spots better than MIA's crappy defense. that should help the cause quite a bit.

It also is fortunate that both Hurts and Goedert are injured, Particularly Goedert, who broke his arm or something and won't be available at all.

But PHI has the ability to just run the ball if they want to, and they will just hand off 40+ times if it's working. I would be concerned that they might try something like that, but I have a feeling that Siriani has something to prove, and won't lean on their run game like that against KC, probably to his ultimate detriment.

If they do, well, I guess we'll find out how good our run defense plays without Bolton.
I just don't think Sirianni is a particularly great coach.

I think he's fine, I don't think he's a disaster or anything. But Reid/Bienemy/Spags ran circles around his entire coaching staff in the Super Bowl. The only reason the Eagles kept that close is because Hurts became Superman.

So I do think it would be a problem for the Chiefs if the Eagles just tried to run on us all game. It just wouldn't remotely surprise me if they opted to keep airing it out against a Chiefs defense built for offenses who air it out.

The Chiefs just put the clamps on the best WR combo in the league. Brown/Smith is not far behind that, but the Chiefs D is going to put clamps on them, too.
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Direckshun 03:34 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So you have excuses for every single example of the Eagles defense not being some juggernaut that the Chiefs can't manage to score against?

You're probably right. I'm not buying all of your excuses. Sorry.
S'alright.
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Direckshun 03:35 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I’m starting to think they are load managing Toney.

Reid needs him for the playoffs and that’s when the isolation/focal plays going to Skyy switch.

So we’re going to have to win with defense, running the ball and Mahomes managing the game till then.
I think they're load managing Toney as well. I'm ready for them to end it and just put the guy out there.
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tredadda 03:35 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Chiefs O is going to be different after the bye. The only thing that makes sense with the O so far is that Andy was doing enough to win but also a bunch of 'experimenting' to see what's going to work well with these players.
Would love for you to be right on this.
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O.city 03:51 PM 11-06-2023
Sirianni has the most punchable face in the world. The entire god damn world. I can't stand the guy.

Talk about being born on third base, in terms of coaching. Yeah, he goes for alot of fourth downs.

He's had a great roster and has a great GM.

Fuck him.
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Direckshun 03:58 PM 11-06-2023
Originally Posted by O.city:
Sirianni has the most punchable face in the world. The entire god damn world. I can't stand the guy.

Talk about being born on third base, in terms of coaching. Yeah, he goes for alot of fourth downs.

He's had a great roster and has a great GM.

**** him.
Most overrated coach in the league?

Gotta be Sirianni, right? Guy is a fine coach, like he's not terrible. But you're dead right, the Eagles are about as coach-proof as you can make a team.

The guy brought in Fangio for the Super Bowl. That's just not something you do if you're confident you have the staff to solve any opponent's scheme.
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RaidersOftheCellar 04:16 PM 11-06-2023
Chiefs are 4th in yards per play and 3rd in opponents' yards per play. Seems pretty balanced to me.

Most of the offensive issues are easily correctable. Cut out the unforced errors and focus drops. Stop calling idiotic plays on 3rd and a foot. Unleash Rice and Toney.

Got a feeling Andy's gonna have a little something special prepared for his old team.
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Hammock Parties 04:18 PM 11-06-2023
chiefs went from a total shit offensive performance to a good half

put two good halves together fam!!!!!!!!
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