Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Denver game showed how much refinement the kid made in 8 months since he began OTA’s. He knows he can ball at the next level and is ready to start showing it off in September. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JDKinman:
This was what drove defensive coordinators nuts in the Big 12, along with the DC at LSU about Mahomes. His eyes see. His mind processes. His body reacts. His team scores. And all in a matter of nano-seconds.
It's exciting to hear that Reid is coaching Mahomes, and grooming the offense, to an improved version of what Mahomes played at Tech--which was largely an unstoppable offense.
And at Tech, we always had very good receivers, but they were often undersized and not always speedy. Our running game was hit and miss from game to game and in Mahomes' last season, the offensive line was not good.
This season at KC will be interesting.
Perhaps more than anything, the mark of not just a prize athlete, but a leader is to make those around him better. Ask ANY former teammate of Mahomes', and they'll agree--he doesn't just push those around him to get better, he freaking inspires them too by example and leadership.
I honestly do not think this is going to be an issue nor concern with this young man. During this three years at Tech, he was revered as a saint around West Texas and the more he was admired and fawned over, the more humble he became--quite the opposite of Mayfield, Manziel and other hotshot superstars.
I also do not think Mahomes will be a salary cap drain. This young man is about winning and team. Period.
My biggest concern is not for the 2018 season, but the 2019 season when all of the league will have a year's worth of film on this young man--and be working their butts off to adjust defensive schemes to him and his style of play.
Saw it at Tech, and while the Big 12 wasn't a defensive league juggernaut, part of that was because the league WAS an offensive monster. Mahomes has too many tools of his own that he can beat you with. Add in a (hopefully) improved offensive line and the offensive weapons he has. . .
I'd invest in Maalox stock--defensive coordinators are going to be buying it by truckload this season and next.
JD
nice post JD. Can't wait to see what PM does under Reid's tutelage, after flashing so much brilliance at Tech [Reply]
I think Mahomes is a silent assassin. He's a guy that won't go around acting like a cocky ass off the field, he'll be down to earth and willing to learn and improve on things, but the second a game begins, it's like a light turns on and he lets his swag show because he internally knows how damn good he is.
Passing up on any endorsements last year is another example of that imo. He's willing to bet on himself because he knows how good he'll be and he's willing to have patience that will pay off tenfold when the time comes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
I want him making smart decisions and no, throwing into triple coverage is not a smart decision.
And I know the outcome of most throws in triple coverage. Saying we can't criticize the decision is ridiculous. Posted via Mobile Device
Fair enough. That pass was into triple coverage with Miller hot on his heals. Smith never makes that pass, and never gets intercepted. I suspect that Mahomes will get intercepted at some point on a play like that, BUT, I can see him making that throw again and having success.
The coaching staff is saying they are seeing him make plays thaey have never seen being made before. Tough call on weather to reign that in or not.
And I didn't say anything about criticizing decisions. Just wanted to know if you thought he should throw the pass he threw against Denver or throw it away like Smith would have. [Reply]
Mahomes didn’t want the hype before he played a snap.
Mahomes and his agent Leigh Steinberg talked to ESPN about how he declined local endorsements last year in deference to veteran starter Alex Smith. Steinberg said that Mahomes got some of the offers that come with being a first-round rookie, but chose to focus instead on finding his place in the locker room before having his face plastered on Kansas City billboards while Smith was still the starter. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Fair enough. That pass was into triple coverage with Miller hot on his heals. Smith never makes that pass, and never gets intercepted. I suspect that Mahomes will get intercepted at some point on a play like that, BUT, I can see him making that throw again and having success.
The coaching staff is saying they are seeing him make plays thaey have never seen being made before. Tough call on weather to reign that in or not.
And I didn't say anything about criticizing decisions. Just wanted to know if you thought he should throw the pass he threw against Denver or throw it away like Smith would have.
Not a tough call for me. Don't rein him in. Don't push him toward average. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Not a tough call for me. Don't rein him in. Don't push him toward average.
Not a tough call for me either. I was thinking tough call for the coaching staff. I hope they let him play, and think they will, since they seem giddy with what they are seeing in practice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Not a tough call for me. Don't rein him in. Don't push him toward average.
And he's Brett favre. I'd rather have Aaron Rodgers than Brett favre. Rodgers has all the talents and arm strength of favre but he knows when to use it and when to not. I get everyone sees Brett favre as this great QB, which he is, but his negatives costed his teams a lot. You're not going to win if the QB is reckless and you can't count on him to make good decisions. You can be an elite QB while making good decisions which is what I think Reid is trying to get Mahomes to do. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
I don’t think Mahomes will be near as bad about the bad decisions as Favre was, however I do expect that it will take him some time to ‘reel it in’. Like maybe a few years, then he’ll really know what he can and can’t get away with consistently.
QBs these days don’t hit their prime until 30+ years old, so he’s ideally got a lot of room to grow here as they move forward. [Reply]
Mahomes didn’t want the hype before he played a snap.
Mahomes and his agent Leigh Steinberg talked to ESPN about how he declined local endorsements last year in deference to veteran starter Alex Smith. Steinberg said that Mahomes got some of the offers that come with being a first-round rookie, but chose to focus instead on finding his place in the locker room before having his face plastered on Kansas City billboards while Smith was still the starter.
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I don’t think Mahomes will be near as bad about the bad decisions as Favre was, however I do expect that it will take him some time to ‘reel it in’. Like maybe a few years, then he’ll really know what he can and can’t get away with consistently.
QBs these days don’t hit their prime until 30+ years old, so he’s ideally got a lot of room to grow here as they move forward.
This place will explode if Mahomes hasn't saved them from playoff purgatory until he is 30 [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I don’t think Mahomes will be near as bad about the bad decisions as Favre was, however I do expect that it will take him some time to ‘reel it in’. Like maybe a few years, then he’ll really know what he can and can’t get away with consistently.
QBs these days don’t hit their prime until 30+ years old, so he’s ideally got a lot of room to grow here as they move forward.
Originally Posted by -King-:
And he's Brett favre. I'd rather have Aaron Rodgers than Brett favre. Rodgers has all the talents and arm strength of favre but he knows when to use it and when to not. I get everyone sees Brett favre as this great QB, which he is, but his negatives costed his teams a lot. You're not going to win if the QB is reckless and you can't count on him to make good decisions. You can be an elite QB while making good decisions which is what I think Reid is trying to get Mahomes to do. Posted via Mobile Device
He made great decisions against Denver... plus improvised maybe the best play of the entire season. (Hell, that was maybe the best play I have ever seen a Chiefs QB make) I didn't see anything resembling a reckless QB. In fact, his play is why Smith was let go. I think what we saw that game is what we are going to get... and I am all for that! [Reply]
