Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Robinson gave up 21 pressures in the last 2 games of the season. Jackson gave up 22 all season. No, they are not anywhere near equivalent. Jackson is young and has plenty of room to develop even further into a very good LT. Cam Robinson is near 30 and at best provides you a baseline of mediocre LT play for top pay, and even that is being generous.
Sam Darnold was responsible for a lot of those pressures
Sam Darnold had an EPA of -27.4 last night, according to @NextGenStats.
He was 9-17 for 84 yards and an INT when pressured. Six of the Rams' nine sacks came at least 4.4 seconds after the snap. pic.twitter.com/tVEePnIRSj
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Still in the sign Humphries and keep polishing Kingsley camp. None of the FA options are much better than Humphries. He’ll likely be cheaper. And we need a long term in house solution ala Kingsley. He’s got the size speed and agility required. Just raw af.
So, given the fact that we have been band aid at oline for a number of years here. How is our Oline coaching? Why did they think Kingsley was ready? Why did they think Humphreys had the rust off him? Why didn't they not scheme more ways to mitigate our weakness in Super Bowl? Eagles were daring us to run and we never bothered. Yeah, the players did their part, but they are downstream of some shitty decisions by the coaches IMHO. [Reply]
The Jaguars under Pederson run a pretty similar offense to what we do. They ate 7 million in salary just to get him gone and only got a conditional 5th in return. Cam Robinson may end up being the best realistic option available but we don't need to blow smoke up his ass to justify it. It'll be a significant overpay for at best mediocre to below average LT play. If that's all Mahomes needs to unfuck himself it'll be worth it, but I've got serious concerns Robinson is even capable of providing that baseline. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking lately. Josh Conerly is the only possible LT prospect that will be available and his lack of strength and inconsistent technique feels like he’d be just as much of a project as Kingsley and I don’t want to waste another high pick on that again.
Right now I’d strongly consider trading up for Coleston Loveland (assuming that’s even possible) or taking TreVeyon Henderson.
Conerly is the opposite of Kingsley. Kingsley has all the tangibles to be a great prospect. Conerly doesn't have the measurable but he has a ton of plus tape in a tough conference.
Conerly has a floor that Kingsley doesn't have. kingsley has a ceiling Conerly doesn't have. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Palangi:
I guess you could say that either way. And we are both entitled to our opinions.
Uhh, no. We actually have years of Cam Robinson operating in a similar offense. Nothing to be all that excited about, although as a whole the body of work is a damn sight better that what we've gotten from 2022 and on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Calcountry:
So, given the fact that we have been band aid at oline for a number of years here. How is our Oline coaching? Why did they think Kingsley was ready? Why did they think Humphreys had the rust off him? Why didn't they not scheme more ways to mitigate our weakness in Super Bowl? Eagles were daring us to run and we never bothered. Yeah, the players did their part, but they are downstream of some shitty decisions by the coaches IMHO.
Heck and Reid really just shit their collective pants
Kingsley must've looked passable enough in camp to earn the starting job, so why the hell not help him out when he struggled, as they surely knew he would at times?
Then they bring Humphries in straight from the trainers table, and throw him straight into the deep end before he'd even unpacked his fucking suitcase... like I've said before, if you didn't know any better you'd almost think they WANTED him get reinjured [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Conerly is the opposite of Kingsley. Kingsley has all the tangibles to be a great prospect. Conerly doesn't have the measurable but he has a ton of plus tape in a tough conference.
Conerly has a floor that Kingsley doesn't have. kingsley has a ceiling Conerly doesn't have.
This is why I don’t want Conerly in the 1st rd. I think a vet like Humphries or Robinson could provide a high enough floor immediately. Taking a LT with a high floor over what would be available would feel like reaching for need [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This is why I don’t want Conerly in the 1st rd. I think a vet like Humphries or Robinson could provide a high enough floor immediately. Taking a LT with a high floor over what would be available would feel like reaching for need
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Uhh, no. We actually have years of Cam Robinson operating in a similar offense. Nothing to be all that excited about, although as a whole the body of work is a damn sight better that what we've gotten from 2022 and on.
Will I guess we will see. I bet paid professionals pay Robinson big money. Even with your assessment of garbage.
I agree Robinson is average. But so is Jackson and some of you are acting like he is an answer. Jackson will be exposed big time when having to kick step constantly in our offense. [Reply]