Originally Posted by philfree:
A lot of teeth gnashing in this thread.
We tried to get out of stop gaps and develop some young OTs. I'm sure plenty of discussions were had between Veach, Andy and Patrick and they decided they could deal with, coach and play around the growing pains. These guys just haven't developed fast enough so here we are. I bet in the process Veach also looked at the landscape and thought if need be we could pick up a vet as the season wore on and that's precisely what happened.
We're still 11-1 with all the shitty players Veach has drafted and brought in as well. Gnash away though...gnash away, gnash away, gnash away all!
I see a lot of discussion in this thread. I think you are looking for teeth gnashing, where little exists. It's ok to discuss these things, regardless of records, phil. It's what makes this board thrive and survive. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
I see a lot of discussion in this thread. I think you are looking for teeth gnashing, where little exists. It's ok to discuss these things, regardless of records, phil. It's what makes this board thrive and survive.
The "tone" of parts of this discussion are 100% teeth gnashing but you are 100% correct about what makes this board go. Posts like mine are part of that as well. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Neither guy was overpaid.
Reid got paid as a solid young FA safety. That's what those guys get and that's what he's been.
Thuney was paid as the best pass-blocking OG in football. That's what THOSE guys get and that's what he's been. There are 10 guards right now with a higher AAV than Thuney and there's not a SINGLE guard in the NFL that would've been better for this team over the 5 years he'll be here than Thuney has been.
He's mostly just wrong.
Yeah, FA you normally overpay for just good.
Thuney was ELITE at his position. I pay elite players and figure out the rest. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief: Yeah, I mean, this is how it has to work when you have a 500 million dollar QB. It’s just how it’s going to be for us, they’re going to have to take chances with youth. I just hope they’ve learned it simply can’t be at the tackle position.
The important thing is they keep finding ways to win, which can’t be said for most franchises. Until that stops, we just roll with it.
This is why dynasties are such a rare thing anymore and also why repeating, much less three-peating is so challenging (and non existent as of this moment on the three-peat).
Teams have to win while still on a rookie QB salary, catch lightning in a bottle one year at the right time, or (which is the case with KC) have elite personnel from top to bottom, such as QB, HC, DC, and GM.
Biggest problem with youth at the tackle position is that any vet worth anything usually does not hit the open market. Now if Humphries can return to form or close to it, KC would have hit the very rare jackpot at LT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Look man, Humphries is gonna hold it down for the next three years at a pro bowl level... so we can all just shut the fuck up now
I do hope DJ plays close to his PB level. Not at first, I know it's going to take a few games at the least to find his sea legs, but by the time the playoffs come around I hope he's playing significantly better than Morris.
Then, if he shows out at all, bring him back for 2025, and maybe Kingsley can be his understudy and be ready in 2026 or so? Would be nice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Totally forgot Cam Robinson is a free agent after this year. Since Darrisaw will be coming back for Minnesota, they’ll obviously let Cam walk. That’s your guy if Humphries doesn’t work out. You’ll have to drastically overpay most likely, but you go get him at all costs if DJ doesn’t prove to be the guy.
I don’t think we have much to worry about. When Mahomes snaps, the Chiefs seem to finally stop dicking around and make changes. I think there’s zero chance they come out of next offseason without a legit, proven LT.
They did that with Taylor. They paid him a bunch of money to be our RT and currently many people question that. Is Robinson good enough for $20+ million a year? Or is this a desperation type of overpay that burdens this team with another overpaid player (in comparison to salary). The fact Jacksonville let him go via trade should give pause. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
This is why dynasties are such a rare thing anymore and also why repeating, much less three-peating is so challenging (and non existent as of this moment on the three-peat).
Teams have to win while still on a rookie QB salary, catch lightning in a bottle one year at the right time, or (which is the case with KC) have elite personnel from top to bottom, such as QB, HC, DC, and GM.
Biggest problem with youth at the tackle position is that any vet worth anything usually does not hit the open market. Now if Humphries can return to form or close to it, KC would have hit the very rare jackpot at LT.
Look man Humphries IS returning to form... even better in fact
Its gonna be Willie Roaf 2.0, its gonna be deja vu all over again [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
They did that with Taylor. They paid him a bunch of money to be our RT and currently many people question that. Is Robinson good enough for $20+ million a year? Or is this a desperation type of overpay that burdens this team with another overpaid player (in comparison to salary). The fact Jacksonville let him go via trade should give pause.
Yeah, the fact they actually ate 7 million and only got a conditional 5th/4th back gives me serious pause. Shit had to go really sideways for that to make any sense. [Reply]
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