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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 05:42 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Combing thru some tweets and the Alex Smith ute fanbase are some delusional ****s. These guys are like Kentucky fans of the west. But kentucky has actually won stuff, maybe iowa states little bro? Had no idea what we were in for but if it brings more trolling opportunities I'll gladly take it.





BYU should have blocked them
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BryanBusby 06:04 PM 08-05-2023
USC bolting from the PAC12 was a killer for that conference.

Big12 got some good gets.
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:12 PM 08-05-2023
Why would you be shocked people don't respect or happy about joining the Big Dumpster fire?
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Pablo 07:32 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
Why would you be shocked people don't respect or happy about joining the Big Dumpster fire?
utah's national brand is on par with mu. They've done nothing and don't really matter to most people, so I don't know why they think they're above it?
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Chief Pagan 07:50 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by Coach:
I think protected rivalries will be the thing going forward. For instance, they will have KSU play KU, ISU, and 2 other teams (Colorado? Oklahoma State?) home/away.

So that's 8 games there and fill in the remaining with other teams that will alternate home/away every year. Of course, this is just spitballin, but I can see an angle like this.
If it's a 16 team conference, I suppose so. If the BB was 18 or 20, not sure I believe that ever happening, I would think you would only play once.

As a Jayhawk, I don't really care about regional rivalries. (What KSU rivalry?) I would rather have a chance to play twice against the teams in contention for the conference title that's just as likely to be Baylor or Arizona.

Oh well. Glad it was the PAC12 that disintegrated not the Big12.
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Pablo 07:56 PM 08-05-2023
KU welcoming Utah into The Phog:


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displacedinMN 07:57 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pablo:
KU welcoming Utah into The Phog:

I am ok with this
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displacedinMN 07:59 PM 08-05-2023
With all of this....it sounds like the BIG 10 has a plan in place for the future.
and the others are playing catch up.


BIG should add FSU and ND. FSU brings in money from cable systems in FLA. ND brings a name.

Remaining Pac 10 and Mountain west combine.
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displacedinMN 08:00 PM 08-05-2023
Decent read

Spoiler!

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MarkDavis'Haircut 08:31 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
Decent read

Spoiler!
It is like nations. Nations don't have friends or alliances. They have interests.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 08:32 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by Pablo:
utah's national brand is on par with mu. They've done nothing and don't really matter to most people, so I don't know why they think they're above it?
To be fair, Utah has actually won BCS bowl games. :-)
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Rams Fan 08:41 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
I like softball a lot. It is a great sport.

But these players need to understand reality. The schools left because the difference in media money would make the schools couldn't compete with the big boys in the long run. They didn't leave on a lark. They left for smart, financial reasons.

And I am tired of everyone citing mental health and people rolling over because of it. It is an excuse at this point. Good grief, student athletes have it easy compared to what their age group went through decades ago.

And the players can stay close to home. Transfer to a Big Sky school. Or the WCC. But then they would complain because they wouldn't receive the same benefits as at a power five school.
I agree, but there's still substantial disadvantages with the new alignment geographically.

Let's use Oregon as an example.

For football, this re-alignment doesn't do much in terms of travel. May want to fly out Thursday night instead of Friday to have more time to adjust to time zones, but overall a non-factor.

Every other sport is at a disadvantage though. How are road trips going to work for every other sport? Do those teams just stay in the Midwest or East for 2 weeks? Or do they travel mid-week to go across the country before coming back on the weekend?
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BWillie 08:47 PM 08-05-2023
I can't wait until Oregon comes into Iowa City in November and is confused about why they got beat 10 to 3 and couldn't score 55 points.
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Rams Fan 08:55 PM 08-05-2023
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I can't wait until Oregon comes into Iowa City in November and is confused about why they got beat 10 to 3 and couldn't score 55 points.
They beat Ohio St. in Columbus in 2021.
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displacedinMN 06:15 AM 08-06-2023
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
They beat Ohio St. in Columbus in 2021.
Not in November.

Started thinking about bowl possibilities again. It will be interesting to see what the new bowl affiliations will be after this period

I believe the big ten is in charge of bowl selection


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