Originally Posted by Gary Cooper:
They were either really high on Kingsley or thought Tyron Smith wasn't reliable due to his injury history. From what I remember, Smith's contract with the Jets was heavily incentivized on him playing a lot of snaps.
Now they're ironically bringing in Humphries, who also has an injury history.
Yep. 6 million guaranteed with incentives that could push it up to 20 million almost entirely earned by a percentage of snaps played. [Reply]
They lost their #1 WR (who was looking like he may have been a legit top 5 WR this year) their #2 WR and their #1 Rb all in the first month of the season.
We've discussed that all before but shit....if that happened to say...the Ravens or the Eagles, do we think they're sitting at 11-1?
They've won back to back SB's and are the 1 seed thru 12 games in a 3 peat season, with some catastrophic injuries. Guys are coming back. Just gotta see how it plays out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Gary Cooper:
They were either really high on Kingsley or thought Tyron Smith wasn't reliable due to his injury history. From what I remember, Smith's contract with the Jets was heavily incentivized on him playing a lot of snaps.
Now they're ironically bringing in Humphries, who also has an injury history.
I was shocked when Kingsley was named starter. Pleasantly surprised because I assumed he would NOT be ready.
As smart as this team is, I still wonder about how we miss on guys we can see in practice like Toney, Skyy, or Kingsley. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
How else can one set when your offense is constantly in shotgun, your coach puts you on an island virtually every snap and your QB has probably the deepest drop-back point in the league?
We've ALWAYS utilized deep sets. At least since Mahomes took over. That was the biggest worry with Orlando Brown Jr -- did he have the feet to make those deep sets work? That's not a 'weakness' of Taylor, it's a necessity in this offense. He HAS to get back out of his stance and take a deep set.
I won't say an inability to deal with that is a real indictment of Smith necessarily, just another example of him not being an ideal fit here. He just isn't. Thuney doesn't struggle to keep that outside shoulder protected despite having a MUCH worse OT alongside him and dealing with similar problems. Thuney, to this day, is probably the best pass-blocking OG in the league.
Thuney is a dream scenario in terms of skill sets and scheme fit. Smith just isn't.
For reference.
One day we will learn to pick up an E/T on the right side. Today is not that day.
Trey is put in an impossible situation every game. Knows it’s coming, knows he’s going to get no help from Jawaan, and is the one who gets picked and has to deal with DEs teeing off on him. Sucks.
That’s not true. We were pretty good in my time. They’ve been a much bigger issue the last two years because Jawaan uses the same pass set every time where he sets super deep and allows the DE to get inside pressure. Until he changes it there’s nothing that will improve. https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1
How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.
The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out
I think we will know based on who they have active on Sunday. If Morris is active, then I think he's the backup. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out
Honestly? I think they'll call up Donovan Smith if they have to.
I think Mahomes is DONE with Morris at LT and consequently, right or wrong, the KC staff will be too.
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Which is understandable.
What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.
It's pretty obvious they thought they were going to get more out of Wanya in year 2 than what they have so far. It was a miscalculation for sure. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mahomes007:
How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey.
The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid.
Frank Clark issue was we traded draft capital too.
Jawaan was market value.
Reid is a fine contract.
MVS was overpaid but by a few million. He was a 5 million player that they paid 10-11 to. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mahomes007:
How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.
The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less.
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Honestly? I think they'll call up Donovan Smith if they have to.
I think Mahomes is DONE with Morris at LT and consequently, right or wrong, the KC staff will be too.
Gotta keep the Franchise happy.
Donovan Smith isn't gonna be on this team. If they wanted him they would have brought him in weeks ago. He'd be worse than Morris was against the Raiders. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mahomes007:
You cannot even spell rerun properly.
You have Jawaan and Creed as significant overpays, to start. And Thuney received a massive contract at that time, as well. WTF.
It's a filter you fucking noob. I'm calling you a R-E-T-A-R-D.
Everybody has to overpay you buttfucking moron. If you want a GM that never overpays go be a fan of the fucking Indianapolis Colts and Chris Ballard. Sounds like more your speed. [Reply]