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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Halfcan 07:35 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Seems like you're looking for someone to blame but the easy answer here is.....it's you.

If the markets are green 10/13 days and indexes are setting all-time highs, than it's you that's the problem. This is why 90%+ of investors are better off buying index funds and holding rather than individual stocks. Individual stocks are riskier because the market is NOT rational. Stocks have great earnings all the time and end up selling off. I make it a point to NEVER own a stock in my trading account through earnings because the market/stocks aren't rational.

If you are using an actual strategy to buy and sell, you won't get caught holding dogs. But most people convince themselves that whatever stock they purchased SHOULD go up. You're doing just that in your post here. Please, don't do that.

The month of June was amazing for me in my trading account. If what you are doing is losing money on heavily trending bull markets, you only have yourself to blame.

Mind sharing what companies you own that are dogging you?
So, I only have myself to blame that my account skyrocketed today and is up 3-fold in the last year and a half? :-)

Yes, I use the strategy of doing due diligence and finding strong financially sound companies to invest in for the long term.

Here are my "dogs" as you called them. Numbers are Negative.

MVVYF -$444.14 in at .54 cents per share. Share price tanked a few weeks after I bought it. Could have sold for a few hundred profit- but really like this company and held. I will prob buy 2600 more shares to get my ave. down to .30 or so.

SFTBY -$59.05 SPACS market tanked a week after I bought it.

PSTG -$35.30 Good company, but just can't get any traction.

CS -$26.64 Credit Suisse got hammered when a Hedge fund went belly up due to Reddit investors. Huges losses.

PSFE -$23.30 Hammered after BitCoin tanked.

SCHW -$22.04 Owned shares for 2 weeks. They just bought out Ameritrade.

UWMC -$14.25 Bought on a CP stock tip. :-) I actually really like this company and they have strong earnings.

FNF _$12.74 Was in the Green- stock went down due to Fear in something or other. :-)

BNGO -$10.44 Bought on CP stock tip. :-) I like this company and think it might have a chance to do some really good things.

FMNB -$ 9.82 Good divey earner- down because of Fear of rate hikes in Europe or some stupid shit.

HPE -$6.28 Was Green- but recently dipped Red- cause the market decided it should be Red, until they decide to make it Green again.

CC -$5.90 Same as above.

PLTR -$3.40 Bought on CP stock tip. :-) I actually like this company. A little too volatile for my taste, but looks promising.

KO -$3.10 Was Green until Renaldo the soccer player moved his coke can and the company lost 4 Billion in value in 1 day. Ridiculous. :-)

FE -$2.35 Green and good earner. Down because of inflation fears.

SUTNY -$2.13 One of my International bank stocks. It is foreign- and who the **** knows what is going on in their crazy market.

JEF - .70 Just bought 2 days ago before the market selloff for no apparent reason- in which I bitched about and started this dialogue with you.

So there it is. I also dumped AGNPF for $110.00 loss this week. True definition of a dog. Also sold PROG at a profit to offset. Took my gains, did not want to ride the rocket ship back down.
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MTG#10 08:24 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:

UWMC -$14.25 Bought on a CP stock tip. :-) I actually really like this company and they have strong earnings.
I searched this thread, other than one post saying "Are we going all in on UWMC" in Feb with no replies I'm the only person who pimped this stock and it was $8.46 when I posted the Reddit DD on it. It's only passed $14 one time back in late Dec.
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Halfcan 08:37 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
I searched this thread, other than one post saying "Are we going all in on UWMC" in Feb with no replies I'm the only person who pimped this stock and it was $8.46 when I posted the Reddit DD on it. It's only passed $14 one time back in late Dec.
Yep, it was you. :-) I could have made a very small profit with a flip, but chose to keep it for the long haul.

I did my own research and liked the company. I think it is very undervalued right now.
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MTG#10 08:39 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Yep, it was you. :-) I could have made a very small profit with a flip, but chose to keep it for the long haul.

I did my own research and liked the company. I think it is very undervalued right now.
I'm confused how your average is over $14 when it hasn't even came close to that since I posted about it? And yes, it's a great company. If it ever gets a decent amount of volume it will pop, but until then it has a nice dividend.
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Halfcan 08:42 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
I'm confused how your average is over $14 when it hasn't even came close to that since I posted about it? And yes, it's a great company. If it ever gets a decent amount of volume it will pop, but until then it has a nice dividend.
Those numbers are what I am down. -$14
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MTG#10 08:45 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Those numbers are what I am down. -$14
oh my bad
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lewdog 08:56 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Those numbers are what I am down. -$14
I don’t get your write up.

So -$14 means how much you’re down on a position? So with UWMC you own like 5 shares?

I just added a long position to UWMC in my ROTH at $8/share this week. I like that company too.
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Halfcan 09:06 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by lewdog:
I don’t get your write up.

So -$14 means how much you’re down on a position? So with UWMC you own like 5 shares?

I just added a long position to UWMC in my ROTH at $8/share this week. I like that company too.
Negative totals. I was down maybe $65.00 but it has been bouncing back as of late.

I expect all of those to be Green by the years end.
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lewdog 09:11 PM 07-09-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Negative totals. I was down maybe $65.00 but it has been bouncing back as of late.

I expect all of those to be Green by the years end.
Really hard to give you advice or feedback without knowing your cost/share average. The amount you’re down means very little unless you also included position size, which is why most people just state their share cost as this allows anyone to see your profit/loss based on current share price.
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Halfcan 09:20 PM 07-09-2021
[QUOTE=lewdog;15736124]Really hard to give you advice or feedback without knowing your cost/share average. The amount you’re down means very little unless you also included position size, which is why most people just state their share cost as this allows anyone to see your profit/loss based on current share price.[/QUOTE

If I wanted to post my complete financials, I would have. You said nobody posts their losses- so I did. Even though these are not losses- just negative at the moment.
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lewdog 09:39 PM 07-09-2021
If I wanted to post my complete financials, I would have. You said nobody posts their losses- so I did. Even though these are not losses- just negative at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Well I meant that (posting losses) in share price terms so it's easy to understand.

Example.

I bought AMC at $55. This would tell someone that I am down exactly 16% on my position by looking at today's share price.

Being down some random -$65 could mean you're basically break even on a large position, or down a whole lot if the original position was only $100 to begin with.

Example- I lost $150 today on a trade but that tells you nothing unless you know the position size (and no one needs to know that) so I just say that's a 5% loss.

And I'll be honest, I've never seen someone with an all green portfolio. Know when to dump losers, which it sounds like you are doing on occasion. Fundamentals are definitely vital for long positions so keep researching. :-)
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Halfcan 09:59 PM 07-09-2021
^ Gotcha! Yep, makes sense.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07-11-2021, 11:40 AM
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MTG#10 12:18 PM 07-11-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
What do you guys think SPCE does Monday??????????????????????????????
I haven't been paying attention to the launch. Did it go well? If so stock will tank. Did it explode at launch? If so stock will moon.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07-11-2021, 12:41 PM
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MTG#10 07:56 AM 07-12-2021
I'm getting straight up destroyed so far today.
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DaFace 01:55 PM 07-12-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
It went perfectly. I figure the price was already built in but it did drop 6% Friday in anticipation. Buy the rumor /sell the news.
Hope you got out.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07-12-2021, 03:22 PM
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