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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KingPriest2 09:00 AM 08-04-2023
Interesting and today was the day the Apple offer expires

Sources indicating to me and @CFBHeather that the Pac-12 is unlikely to land the plane this morning and get its media rights deal signed on this call today. Multiple variables at play here, including 11th hour Big Ten push for Oregon and Washington. Everything remains fluid.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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Mr. Plow 09:03 AM 08-04-2023
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KingPriest2 09:07 AM 08-04-2023
EXCLUSIVE: Florida State University is working with JPMorgan Chase to explore how the school’s athletic department could raise capital from institutional funds, such as private equity

https://twitter.com/sportico/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Well this might explain why they’re so confident they can afford to break the GOR

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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KingPriest2 09:09 AM 08-04-2023
Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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FloridaMan88 09:10 AM 08-04-2023
The SEC or the Big 10 aren’t clamoring to add Florida State.

That’s the inconvenient fact for FSU as they are trying to break out of the ACC.
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KingPriest2 09:10 AM 08-04-2023
A Big 10 call has been scheduled for today to discuss Oregon and Washington.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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KingPriest2 09:15 AM 08-04-2023
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The SEC or the Big 10 aren’t clamoring to add Florida State.

That’s the inconvenient fact for FSU as they are trying to break out of the ACC.
I agree. Because ESPN won’t pay more when they can pay less

Only way they can is get other schools and present the value of the ganes. Alan Ana. FSU.
FSU Ohio state
Clemson Michagan
Clemson LSU

You get the picture. They have to show the value to edpn in order to pay more when they’re already paying less for the same team
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KingPriest2 09:18 AM 08-04-2023
Pac 12 couldn't close a Grant of Rights deal this morning. Fate of league likely rests on if Oregon can make a deal with the Big Ten. There is hesitancy among many in Big Ten about logistics of 18 team league, travel to Eugene. Money usually wins out in these things. We'll see.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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KingPriest2 09:21 AM 08-04-2023
Sources indicate to WildcatAuthority that Washington is very concerned with the Apple deal.

Arizona and Arizona State are still on track to join the Big 12.

ASU President Michael Crow is proving to be a stumbling block, but parties involved are confident it can be overcome.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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KingPriest2 09:23 AM 08-04-2023
Can confirm @ralphDrussoAP report that there's a Big Ten presidents call now scheduled for today. There wasn't one scheduled early this morning.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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FloridaMan88 09:26 AM 08-04-2023
Originally Posted by KingPriest2:
I agree. Because ESPN won’t pay more when they can pay less

Only way they can is get other schools and present the value of the ganes. Alan Ana. FSU.
FSU Ohio state
Clemson Michagan
Clemson LSU

You get the picture. They have to show the value to edpn in order to pay more when they’re already paying less for the same team
Also ESPN can’t pay more now in their current financial situation.

They weren’t even willing to pay to get the SEC to go from 8 to 9 regular season conference football games.
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KingPriest2 09:28 AM 08-04-2023
It’s a roller coaster: Minutes before Pac-12 presidents meeting was scheduled to begin, Oregon officials expressed further concerns about Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Pac-12 now not expected to resolve GoR this morning. @ralphDrussoAP reported a Big Ten meeting later.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

As reported earlier, the Pac-12's survival is likely contingent on avoiding the loss of two more schools, specifically Washington and Oregon.

Oregon officials are wanting more from the Apple deal. UO-Big Ten situation remains fluid.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

The Pac-12’s survival is contingent on keeping intact at least 8 of the current 9 members.

A loss of 2 more schools - either Arizona/ASU to Big 12 OR Oregon/Washington to Big Ten - is seen as a likely recipe for collapse. As P12 leaders enter their meeting, neither has happened.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

An important part of this: the reluctance from Pac-12 schools - and the blame that may follow - to kill a 108-yr-old conference, sources tell @YahooSports.

Another factor: the pushback from the Big Ten's powerhouse programs in further expansion, something they have been against.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w
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KingPriest2 09:29 AM 08-04-2023
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Also ESPN can’t pay more now in their current financial situation.

They weren’t even willing to pay to get the SEC to go from 8 to 9 regular season conference football games.
Very true
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FloridaMan88 09:31 AM 08-04-2023
It’s been like two years of trying and failing to get a viable new media rights for the Pac 12… the schools with options to get out need to see through this last minute bullshit and leave.
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sedated 09:33 AM 08-04-2023
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The SEC or the Big 10 aren’t clamoring to add Florida State.

That’s the inconvenient fact for FSU as they are trying to break out of the ACC.
If Big 12 adds Arizona and ASU, they'll need a 16th team :-)
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