Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Can’t believe this ended up being the best they could do. We gave up Thuney for a left side of Jaylon Moore and Kingsley? That’s our solution after what we just saw in the Super Bowl?
These guys have made a lot of the right moves over the years even when they appeared questionable, but I don’t think I’ve ever been as uncomfortable as I am with this current plan unfolding. I’ll leave them to do their thing, but man. Hope for the best.
Who’s the best LT we could reasonably acquire at this stage of the offseason?
Did the Chiefs make the best possible move for the upcoming season? Then that’s that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
It seems like the LT position is almost impossible to fill without a top-ten pick, and even then it's dicey. Pass rushers these days are insanely athletic.
Eric Fisher was a #1 pick, and he was imperfect. Orlando Brown, Jr., was a brontosaurus and he was imperfect. We've spent second-day picks on Kingsley and Wanya who have had a hard time (so far) adjusting.
I'm starting to conclude that top-notch left tackles do not grow on trees.
Multiple teams have found decent left tackles the past few years without using top 10 picks. I’m not saying it’s easy, but it’s far from impossible. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Multiple teams have found decent left tackles the past few years without using top 10 picks. I’m not saying it’s easy, but it’s far from impossible.
Now that you mention it, you're right. I remember Bakhtiari from a while back, and I think the Bears have a guy. Who else? And what's the pattern in successful non-top-ten picks?
Oh, and that giant Samoan for Philadelphia, but we're already running a giant Samoan experiment with Kingsley. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Multiple teams have found decent left tackles the past few years without using top 10 picks. I’m not saying it’s easy, but it’s far from impossible.
And the overwhelming majority were still well out of the Chiefs range, but sure buddy! [Reply]
I’ll say it again I’m just really glad it wasn’t Dan Moore. Watching him get whooped by Danna and FAU on Christmas, yeah that doesn’t play for me. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That was Orlando’s fault. He was offered way more than he actually received, and then out of spite left.
IIRC it was the way it was structured on why he turned it down. I think both parties are probably to blame. It is too bad because no one likes this revolving door at LT.
Originally Posted by :
Over the span of 2022-24, when including a tag, Brown makes more money with the Bengals than he would have with the Chiefs. Only the first three of six years with the Chiefs were guaranteed anyway. After roughly two seasons with the Bengals, he enters prime extension territory again or eventually hits free agency -- before turning 30, netting him one more big payday.
Reading more about this guy- looks like a good move. He isn’t a superstar but is about as good as we could do at this point. This also means we won’t need to reach for a third round tackle prospect in the first round of the draft. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I’ll say it again I’m just really glad it wasn’t Dan Moore. Watching him get whooped by Danna and FAU on Christmas, yeah that doesn’t play for me.
He can’t get whooped by Danna and FAU if he plays on the same team.
Man why am I not a GM? I’m out here Moneyballing the shit out of the league! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Can’t believe this ended up being the best they could do. We gave up Thuney for a left side of Jaylon Moore and Kingsley? That’s our solution after what we just saw in the Super Bowl?
These guys have made a lot of the right moves over the years even when they appeared questionable, but I don’t think I’ve ever been as uncomfortable as I am with this current plan unfolding. I’ll leave them to do their thing, but man. Hope for the best.
Realistically it probably is. I’m not as worried about guard as I feel like it’s an easier position to draft for and also like the idea of giving wanya or Kingsley a full offseason go at it. I also like that we don’t have to give up on Kingsley at LT.
I also wouldn’t rule out still using the draft. We should take plenty of swings over the next few years. We gotta be willing and able to swing and a miss a few times. But until we get that figured out, let’s use a reasonably priced bandaid so we don’t do the bullshit we did last year at LT and two years ago at WR. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
49ers fans calling him a "natural pass blocker."
If you're not excited about getting an athletic LT after the last two years of fucking shit just turn in your fan card.
That's what attracted me to him -- he does trend more towards the Fisher style of athletic OTs.
He just hasn't really had to DO it yet. Like I said, those short sets the 49ers use couldn't be much different than what we do. They use those 'attack' sets that have their OTs coming forward at the snap rather than backwards a lot (similar to how Thuney was doing it).
We need to see how he puts those tools to use yet. But the fact that he at least HAS those tools is certainly encouraging. [Reply]