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wazu 08:30 AM 07-22-2024

Jordan Love will not practice until he has a new deal, Brian Gutekunst says. Love’s camp informed Packers of that decision Saturday.

Gutekunst says a deal could get done in the coming days, but you never know. Says big deals take time.

“I feel we’re close.” pic.twitter.com/yeW5ScbUMm

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) July 22, 2024

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Megatron96 03:43 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You don't have to let him walk now, you can force his hand and make him play out the season before committing huge $.


Yah, at the very least, I'd want to see him play an entire season of good football before I hand him $50M/yr for the next 5 years, not just 8 games.
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Megatron96 03:47 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I hear you, but letting a potential franchise QB walk is not a good look. You play hardball, Love holds out, you lose a fuckton of games, Love walks, you’re back on the QB carousel for however long.

There’s a good chance you’d get fired or overridden by ownership before it gets that far.



You know, there's another question. Who's going to pay him? How many decent teams actually need a QB and have the cap space to shell out that kind of $$$? I mean, sure there's a lot of teams that could use a better QB, but how many have the space to get it done, and are good enough besides the QB to make that switch palatable to Love?
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ThaVirus 03:47 PM 07-22-2024
If the Packers were concerned about seeing body of work before committing, they really shouldn’t have fucked themselves by sitting the guy for the first three years of his career and declining the 5th-year option.

They did this to themselves.
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ThaVirus 03:52 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
You know, there's another question. Who's going to pay him? How many decent teams actually need a QB and have the cap space to shell out that kind of $$$? I mean, sure there's a lot of teams that could use a better QB, but how many have the space to get it done, and are good enough besides the QB to make that switch palatable to Love?
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

Take a look at the cap space by tab. Looking into the future, 2025, 2026, etc.

There are a ton of teams who could make it work.
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wazu 03:55 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

Take a look at the cap space by tab. Looking into the future, 2025, 2026, etc.

There are a ton of teams who could make it work.
Teams would be lining up for that bidding war. If Green Bay doesn't want Love they should trade him for what would be an absolute haul of picks.

This is all academic, though. Reports sound like a deal is close. Probably done this week so we can all see for ourselves what the price tag was.
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Megatron96 04:01 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by wazu:
Teams would be lining up for that bidding war. If Green Bay doesn't want Love they should trade him for what would be an absolute haul of picks.

This is all academic, though. Reports sound like a deal is close. Probably done this week so we can all see for ourselves what the price tag was.


Yeah, it's just a fun hypothetical exercise. Sure GB will retain him, it's just a question of whether they screw themselves a la DAL and Dak for example, or if they find a way to mitigate some of the risk. My guess is the guaranteed $$$ will equate to about $40M/yr, but the contract superficially will look like $50M/yr.
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redfan 04:19 PM 07-22-2024
That's quite nice for JLove. I hope he gets a very large contract, maybe he can eventually join the 3 comma club.
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ChiliConCarnage 04:22 PM 07-22-2024
Came out of nowhere a bit but the statement sounded like they're close. It will be an interesting contract to see.
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Urc Burry 04:29 PM 07-22-2024
I’d feel very comfortable giving him the going rate… Tua on the other hand… not a chance. That will be a Daniel Jones 2.0 situation
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Pasta Little Brioni 05:17 PM 07-22-2024
8 to 10 decent games and people defend this bullshit :-) Pathetic
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Sassy Squatch 05:24 PM 07-22-2024
Defending what? This is the new norm for NFL QBs. If teams are going to bend over backwards to hand even relatively average talent 50+ million annually and guarantee a huge portion of it, are we supposed to be mad at the players for taking advantage?
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Marcellus 05:40 PM 07-22-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Defending what? This is the new norm for NFL QBs. If teams are going to bend over backwards to hand even relatively average talent 50+ million annually and guarantee a huge portion of it, are we supposed to be mad at the players for taking advantage?
We don't need to blame a team for not wanting to give a guy with 1 full season of starts $50MM a year as well.
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Sassy Squatch 05:50 PM 07-22-2024
That's fine, if they don't feel comfortable paying him the best available option is to trade him. Because there's a handful of teams that gladly would.
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RunKC 05:58 PM 07-22-2024
Anyone with eyes could see he was an ascending player. One of the best QB’s in the league last year and a historic playoff debut.

They’re going to pay him
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staylor26 06:04 PM 07-22-2024
I'd also feel pretty confident paying him because he's one of the only elite talents at the position in the NFC.
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