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Nzoner's Game Room>Is it too early to start thinking about 2024?
TLO 07:23 PM 12-10-2023
I don't want to give up on this current squad, but I think the evidence is clearly there that this isn't a Super Bowl caliber team.

There's plenty of reason for optimism heading into next season.

What kind of cap room are we working with?

What free agent WR's are likely to be available?

Talk about it here.
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ljmhawk 08:30 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by jerryaldini:
Way too early. We saw tonight they are capable of beating their best AFC competition. They outgained them and more yards per play. Every week they are beating themselves with penalties, drops and turnovers. It's not like there is some big talent gap with the Ravens, Dolphins or Bills (who they beat). You really scared of Lamar in the playoffs?
problem is…it’s week 14 and they same shit is happening that’s been happening all season. it’s not going to all of a sudden just click
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KC_Connection 08:30 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Ravens defense and offense both rank better than us.

Sorry, that's the world we live in. This is not last year anymore.
I'm not disagreeing with that part. I'm just also aware who their QB is.
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Hammock Parties 08:31 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Yes, and that's true of the other team as well. The AFC is wide open.
The Chiefs will have to flip the coin 3 times.

That lessens the chances.
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KC_Connection 08:31 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by New World Order:
We may see Bills again first round
That would be a coin flip.
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KC_Connection 08:32 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Gary Cooper:
The Browns have the same record as the Chiefs.

We shouldn't be making fun of anyone right now.
Who is making fun of the Browns? Just pointing out that the Ravens aren't anywhere near unbeatable if a team without a QB can beat them.
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Hammock Parties 08:32 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I'm not disagreeing with that part. I'm just also aware who their QB is.
Fair point, but he's playing better than Patrick right now.

Everything is hard for Patrick right now. Everything.

Lamar looks like he is having fun, even without Andrews.
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MahomesMagic 08:33 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I'm not disagreeing with that part. I'm just also aware who their QB is.
Yes, but the Ravens decided to try to change their prior flame outs but adding weapons to give Lamar a chance.

Whether it works we will see but at least they tried to improve it.

If you don't get to Lamar fast he will have 4-5 guys that can get open and he can buy time himself.
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KC_Connection 08:34 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Fair point, but he's playing better than Patrick right now.

Everything is hard for Patrick right now. Everything.

Lamar looks like he is having fun, even without Andrews.
I've seen Lamar play really well in the regular season before too. I wonder what happened in those seasons at the end.
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BryanBusby 08:34 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Who is making fun of the Browns? Just pointing out that the Ravens aren't anywhere near unbeatable if a team without a QB can beat them.
You're kinda manufacturing your own argument there my dude.

Nobody declared the Ravens world beaters. They are statistically the best AFC team today.

Get over yourself.
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KC_Connection 08:35 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Yes, but the Ravens decided to try to change their prior flame outs but adding weapons to give Lamar a chance.

Whether it works we will see but at least they tried to improve it.

If you don't get to Lamar fast he will have 4-5 guys that can get open and he can buy time himself.
But can he make the throws under pressure when it matters?

I wonder what past evidence would tell us on that point.
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KC_Connection 08:36 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
You're kinda manufacturing your own argument there my dude.

Nobody declared the Ravens world beaters. They are statistically the best AFC team today.

Get over yourself.
My guy, you called the Ravens clearly the best team in the AFC right now. They aren't clearly the best anything at all and you'd know that if you spent any time watching that shitshow of a game they played today against the Rams.
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TLO 08:36 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by Trivers:
This thread will not age well.
I truly hope you're right.
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MahomesMagic 08:36 PM 12-10-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
But can he make the throws under pressure when it matters?

I wonder what past evidence would tell us on that point.

All he has to do is score more than the other team. So far this year it is working a lot better than our formula of giving Mahomes no professional WR's to throw to.
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mr. tegu 08:40 PM 12-10-2023
They are just like the Bills. Good enough to beat anyone but absolutely not good enough to win four playoff games in a row. I think that’s the disconnect people have. It’s hard to say they can’t make the Super Bowl against this level of competition because of their pedigree, but the chances they don’t have a carbon copy game to any of their four similar losses are zero.
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Hammock Parties 08:41 PM 12-10-2023
We knew how 2018 was going to end, even with Patrick being Patrick.

Deep down, we knew.

The Chiefs ended that regular season very inconsistently, too.

You know now.
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