The way several are coming across it is no wonder that they think so highly of Marty Schottenheimer. Yes, he brought us out of the awful 80's but we were stuck in that not being awful and not being able to win anything of real substance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Ohh look, a team who did a relatively fast rebuild, drafting a QB #2 overall in the process, and now looks like a contender!
It's almost as if being mediocre makes things SO much harder.
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
He sucks. Great news for the Chiefs.
1. he doesn't suck. he's a hell of a coach.
2. this isn't great news for the chiefs. it isn't news for the chiefs. Patrick Mahomes II is above any move the opposition makes. He's the greatest player to ever lace them up, and only father time will defeat him. Everything else is just theater for the masses while they watch another chiefs super bowl.
3. Just wanted to reiterate that Mahomes is God. [Reply]
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
1. he doesn't suck. he's a hell of a coach.
2. this isn't great news for the chiefs. it isn't news for the chiefs. Patrick Mahomes II is above any move the opposition makes. He's the greatest player to ever lace them up, and only father time will defeat him. Everything else is just theater for the masses while they watch another chiefs super bowl.
3. Just wanted to reiterate that Mahomes is God.
He used to be a hell of a coach. He mailed it in long ago sir. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia:
He used to be a hell of a coach. He mailed it in long ago sir.
They went 10-7 last year in the only division in football without a losing record. He had Kenny Pickett throwing the ball. You're off on this one. [Reply]
Originally Posted by In58men:
So, he’s suppose to tank for a top QB?
At least he took a shot with Pickett and didn’t just settle for a hand me down QB like we did for years. There was a time this board wanted Geno Smith, Ryan Tannehill and Johnny Manuel.
I think Wilson will be better with Tomlin than Payton.
I can’t believe Tanny is still sitting on his couch. He’d be the best quarterback on quite a few teams. 2 in our division too. I figured Vegas would go after him, but they seem content wasting those offensive weapons they have with AOC, and Minshew. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
I can’t believe Tanny is still sitting on his couch. He’d be the best quarterback on quite a few teams. 2 in our division too. I figured Vegas would go after him, but they seem content wasting those offensive weapons they have with AOC, and Minshew.
Somebody will lose their starting QB to injury and will sign him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Do you think the Bears, Commanders, and Patriots aren't just a LITTLE bit remorseful that they've got brand new shiny QBs and yet their head coaches are going to be mostly out of the picture when it comes to that QB's development? I mean yeah, that's what the QB coach and OC is for sure, but wouldn't it be nice if the guy making all the decisions could more intuitively make those decisions that are best for the QB instead of having to take advice from assistant coaches all the time?
If I'm an NFL owner hiring a new head coach, and I can take either Tomlin or a young unproven OC from somewhere, I'd be tempted to go Tomlin if I had a vet QB already in place. But if I'm starting from scratch? There's no way I'd hire any defensive guy ever. Not a young guy, not Tomlin, and not even Belichick.
Originally Posted by tk13:
I don't think the Jeff Fisher thing is even a debate. Jeff Fisher had 6 winning seasons in 22 years. Dude lived at the .500 mark which is why he got the reputation he did.
Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season but he's had double digit wins 10 times, won a Super Bowl, and has done it while having Brady, Manning and Mahomes in his conference and the Ravens who are always good in his division. It's not like he's lived at 7-9 wins a year like Fisher did. He's clearly a class above that.
Yep, it’s not even a debate for me. You can try arguing that he’s Jeff Fisher who lucked into a HoF QB, but even then that’s tough and a small sample size. In three years without Roethlisberger, he’s gone 8-8, 9-8 and 10-7. That’s with Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett as the team’s leading passer, while playing in the toughest division and same conference as a dynasty (that’s so nice to be able to say). [Reply]
Also, the idea that it’s better to take your medicine and suck to get the good QB obviously holds weight. Us Chiefs fans know that.. but I don’t think that’s a consideration for an organization like the Steelers just yet. They’ve got six Lombardis and are probably the most storied franchise in football. They won a Super Bowl 15 years ago and were in another 13 years ago. They’ve been to the playoffs 8 times since that last Super Bowl loss.
I think that type of success buys you a little time.
If this were the Jets or Cardinals we were talking about then I’d say this was not a smart move. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Also, the idea that it’s better to take your medicine and suck to get the good QB obviously holds weight. Us Chiefs fans know that.. but I don’t think that’s a consideration for an organization like the Steelers just yet. They’ve got six Lombardis and are probably the most storied franchise in football. They won a Super Bowl 15 years ago and were in another 13 years ago. They’ve been to the playoffs 8 times since that last Super Bowl loss.
I think that type of success buys you a little time.
If this were the Jets or Cardinals we were talking about then I’d say this was not a smart move.
Dude, nobody gives a fuck about those SBs when you haven't won a playoff game in almost a decade. If anything, an organization like that should see that this isn't good enough, because they have standards. [Reply]
