Originally Posted by Frazod:
It's kind of like Starship Troopers. I hadn't read the book when I first saw the movie, and despite it being rather silly, I loved it. To this day it's one of my favorites. My friend Russ (who used to post here as KCWolfman) loved the book, and hated the movie the same way I hate every adaption of Dune. I did eventually read the book, and I definitely understand why he feels that way. Paul Verhoeven (who also did Robocop and Total Recall) absolutely raped the source material, far worse than Lynch or Villeneuve did Dune. Thank God I didn't read the book first - I may well have set fire to the theater. :-)
It's the curse of being old, I guess. I predate Star Wars, and remember what science fiction movies were like before that. Even the ones with good stories had usually special effects you could duplicate by hanging toys from strings and setting them on fire. But at this point, pretty much anything you can imagine can be presented on screen like it's real, and it's been that way for decades now. Younger generations just don't get that, and never will. Especially the ones who never read a book that didn't have pictures in it.
Starship Troopers kicks ass. I've never read the book either but I fucking love that movie. It was one of the first R rated movies I remember my dad letting me watch when we first got cable. I watched the shower scene many many times. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Starship Troopers kicks ass. I've never read the book either but I fucking love that movie. It was one of the first R rated movies I remember my dad letting me watch when we first got cable. I watched the shower scene many many times.
I knew nothing about it when I went to see it. I just assumed it would be a typical sci-fi Star Wars type action movie, so I brought my then-girlfriend/now wife. She doesn't like gory movies, and Starship Troopers is pretty much a blood-soaked war movie in a sci-fi setting. Needless to say she was not happy. There were a couple of times when I thought she was going to puke in my lap. :-) I loved it, though, and I've watched it many times. Never gets old and the special effects still hold up well. Some of the best space battle scenes of all time.
The book is fantastic, though, and nothing like the movie, outside of fighting bugs (that actually used armor and equipment) and a few of the character names. Another one of my friends hated it because one of the main things in the book was the troops using power armor, and that wasn't in the movie at all.
Heinlein must have been spinning in his grave over it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
It's kind of like Starship Troopers. I hadn't read the book when I first saw the movie, and despite it being rather silly, I loved it. To this day it's one of my favorites. My friend Russ (who used to post here as KCWolfman) loved the book, and hated the movie the same way I hate every adaption of Dune. I did eventually read the book, and I definitely understand why he feels that way. Paul Verhoeven (who also did Robocop and Total Recall) absolutely raped the source material, far worse than Lynch or Villeneuve did Dune. Thank God I didn't read the book first - I may well have set fire to the theater. :-)
It's the curse of being old, I guess. I predate Star Wars, and remember what science fiction movies were like before that. Even the ones with good stories had usually special effects you could duplicate by hanging toys from strings and setting them on fire. But at this point, pretty much anything you can imagine can be presented on screen like it's real, and it's been that way for decades now. Younger generations just don't get that, and never will. Especially the ones who never read a book that didn't have pictures in it.
I've had conversations with my father in law about this type of thing. I think it's where now, we have to ability to actually show all this stuff with technology and CGI that we don't have to have any imaginations. Everyone's adaptation was different because alot was left to the imagination. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Starship Troopers kicks ass. I've never read the book either but I ****ing love that movie. It was one of the first R rated movies I remember my dad letting me watch when we first got cable. I watched the shower scene many many times.
Not sure if you go into the 50+ Hotties thread but someone just posted some pictures of the one red headed girl in there and she still is hot as hell at 50.
I was trying to embed the shower scene from reddit but it kept autoplaying so here is just a link. Definitely NSFW
I do wish we had gotten the poison blade sequence at the end, but DV actually made me believe he was going to kill Paul.
And just an incredible transition from Paul Atreides to Usul after the Water of Life sequence. Chamalet nailed it. The whole sequence with the Fremen council was spellbinding.
Only two criticisms:
Kinda wish we had gotten music when the giant sandworm breached during the mounting sequence, and the rest of the fremen climbing on board. I still prefer the '84 sequence.
Walken kinda sucked. I felt that role was miscast. [Reply]
I get why people don't like it, but I think it was played to great dramatic effect.
It will make their uniting again in Messiah that much stronger.
Oh no.
They Strong Womaned her, didn't they?
I mean damn, she wasn't some wilting daisy in the books. But yeah, I can probably guess what happened here - Didn't like him marrying Irulan and wasn't gonna be some Royal Consort so she peaced out.
I mean that was exactly what Jessica was and she's one of the strongest female characters in modern literary history but nope - can't have that in a modern blockbuster.... [Reply]
I mean damn, she wasn't some wilting daisy in the books. But yeah, I can probably guess what happened here - Didn't like him marrying Irulan and wasn't gonna be some Royal Consort so she peaced out.
I mean that was exactly what Jessica was and she's one of the strongest female characters in modern literary history but nope - can't have that in a modern blockbuster....
Nah it isn't that bad. Like it's not Rey level problems.
I'm interested to see where her character goes. [Reply]
