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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2024/2025 KC Royals Offseason Thread***
GabyKeepsMeWarm 03:35 AM 10-11-2024
Royals went from 56-106 to 86-76.

Made the playoffs. Took out the Orioles on the road.

Lost in four games to the Yankees by 4 runs.

Finally got a bullpen.

Had two pitchers who will finish in the top five for the Cy Young.

Bobby Witt jr turned into a superstar likely being an MVP #2 to that phag in NY.

Salvy just kept doing Salvy stuff.

Vinnie came back from shoulder surgery and had a helluva year.

Cole Ragans had a full season. His arm didn’t fall off. He’s probably top five for Cy Young.

Seth Lugo is gonna finish top five for Cy Young. He’s like Rick Reed. And he’s ours for at least another season.

Brady Singer will get his next time with arbitration. And I’m ambivalent, but I know it’s damn hard to find healthy arms who could be be better as a 3/4 starter.

Michael Wacha was more than everything we could’ve ever wanted, but I say let that man fly unless he wants to take a dumb contract, which he won’t do.

That gives us Alec Marsh who was pretty great for his role.

And we have Wright coming in, plus Bubic who could start.

But this team needs another bat and wingman for Bobby. It’s perfect that Juan Soto would fill many roles, but it ain’t happening.

Adames is someone I like. And we can dangle Massey/Garcia. Just a thought.

This team…. I hope they go into the offseason working hard, and I hope they got the glitter out of their eyes.

Good team with obvious weakness, and a perennial superstar ready to erupt….

Sherman and JJ should be on the phone soon
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WhawhaWhat 07:10 AM 10-28-2024

Congratulations to Salvador Perez, this year’s Roberto Clemente Award winner. Salvy is the first Royal to ever win the prestigious award, which is given annually to a player for his service and philanthropy.

— Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) October 28, 2024

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tredadda 07:15 AM 10-28-2024
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
He’s without question one of my top 2 favorite KC sports athletes of all time. He continues to amaze me in so many ways.
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Chiefspants 12:29 PM 10-28-2024
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
His trophy case is going to need some structural reinforcements.
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GabyKeepsMeWarm 11:52 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
This is so cool! So happy for Salvy! Anyone catch him and his wife at the game last night for the presentation? He’s truly one of a kind and such a remarkable person and representative of the team.
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PHOG 12:24 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm:
This is so cool! So happy for Salvy! Anyone catch him and his wife at the game last night for the presentation? He’s truly one of a kind and such a remarkable person and representative of the team.
No, I wish I had though. Haven't watched any of the series, just followed the scoring. Congratulations Salvy!
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TomBarndtsTwin 12:26 PM Yesterday
Salvy is a National Treasure.

Really hope he gets into the HOF someday . . . . .
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Ocotillo 09:48 PM Yesterday

White Sox To Hire Will Venable As Manager https://t.co/GgXlA0ZIQ4 pic.twitter.com/HXmcKEOhtR

— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) October 30, 2024

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dlphg9 11:55 PM Yesterday
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
That was an error and they changed it back lol
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GabyKeepsMeWarm 12:03 AM Today
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Salvy is a National Treasure.

Really hope he gets into the HOF someday . . . . .
If he can somehow keep beating back Father Time, put together a couple more All-Star type level seasons, maybe pad his stats with a couple more seasons of decent productivity, I think he eventually gets into Cooperstown. But the writers are notorious for gatekeeping catchers. It’s pretty ridiculous. And the various veterans committees aren’t much better.

Gary Carter not a first ballot HOFer? Carlton Fisk not a first ballot HOFer? Thurman Munson still not even in? It’s preposterous.
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Ocotillo 05:23 AM Today
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm:
If he can somehow keep beating back Father Time, put together a couple more All-Star type level seasons, maybe pad his stats with a couple more seasons of decent productivity, I think he eventually gets into Cooperstown. But the writers are notorious for gatekeeping catchers. It’s pretty ridiculous. And the various veterans committees aren’t much better.

Gary Carter not a first ballot HOFer? Carlton Fisk not a first ballot HOFer? Thurman Munson still not even in? It’s preposterous.
And then last year Joe Mauer was first ballot, so go figure. Not that Mauer didn't deserve it, but he was a peak performer that rode his three batting titles.

I think what will hurt Perez the most are younger, new age voters putting too much emphasis on WAR. They say the threshold for a Hall of Famer is 60 career WAR and Perez is at 36 career WAR on Baseball Reference.

I find WAR for a catcher to be the most unreliable because of all the intangibles and inmeasurables at that position. It's the reason why Yadier Molina (42 WAR) will be a great Hall of Fame candidate study as all the basebally people love him but there's guys like Keith Law that go out of their way to single him out as a non-Hall of Famer.

But ultimately the reason why Perez has a 36 WAR is because analytics simply doesn't like low walk players. Vladimir Guerrero Sr. and Andre Dawson are the outliers in terms of greatness of low walk sluggers but there's other semi-greats like Joe Carter and Juan Gonzalez that get no love at all. Gonzalez is PED-related, too.

Here's a good bias though, HOF voters tend to love the one player for one team guys. Todd Helton and Mauer just this last year fit this category.
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ChiefsCountry 07:55 AM Today
If Salvy can get one more World Series that would really lock him into the HOF IMO.
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