And K-Pass was in the Mahomes draft, wasn't he? That's another 2nd.

Tanoh -- 2nd
Speaks -- 2nd
Clark -- 1st and 2nd
GK -- 1st
FAU -- 1st

Name a spot that we've plowed that much draft capital since we drafted Mahomes. There just isn't one. Hell, there's not a position that's particularly close as I think about it.

We've sunk a SHITLOAD into our DEs over the last several years and have precious little to show for it. Especially if GK plateaued and is mostly just a pretty solid SDE going forward.

And even that small return is gonna start to go backwards if we extend GK to a big money contract and he proves incapable of anchoring a pass-rush if/when Jones starts to decline.
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He can't get off the line, man.

It's perplexing as all hell, but it's still there after over a year in the system. I just don't get it.

He's not a write off because it's seemingly such an easy fix and there are tools there if he gets it handled. But for such a seemingly simple problem, he sure hasn't seemed to make strides on a solution.

And the more time passes without it getting fixed, the more of that rookie contract value we torch.
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It's weird to that it's not really a prospect type thing. All those guys are different type of guys, outside of GK none have really amounted to much.

Just weird. I dunno what it is or means
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They've put a lot into OT though? Especially since they've only really been trying since Fisher and Schwartz got seriously injured in the same year.

Equivalent of a mid second for Brown Jr.
Second for Suamataia
Thirds for Niang and Morris
20 million AAV for Taylor.
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Dee Ford is the closest we've had to a true impact pass-rusher to come into the organization in the Reid era. And we all know how he'll be remembered.

It's just not a great track record at all. To my eyes it's far worse than the WR room and people decided that Veach 'can't draft WRs' two years ago.
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Which is roughly half what they've put into DE when you account for Clark's contract.

And when we had an opportunity to re-sign Wylie for a deal akin to the Danna deal, we didn't so much as make an effort. Meanwhile we seemed more than happy to bring Danna back.

We are putting a LOT more into the position than we are OT.
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Hey, I'm not disagreeing at all. FAU seemed like another situation where they settled for a position of need like Moore.
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Right. About half checks out. They've been serious about OT since 2021. That's when both Fisher and Schwartz got injury settlements IIRC.
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He’s a woman.
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Good discussions via the tangent direction.
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I don't think it's exactly the same.

I think they probably figured "eh, it's a technique flaw; we'll coach it out of him..."

And he played so much of that quasi 3-tech stuff at K-State when they were in odd fronts that maybe they thought he'd been coached as more of a 2-gapper so explosion off the line wasn't something he'd been asked to demonstrate.

It seemed like something that was easily addressed. Then you could work on the bend and hand-fighting to get a real nice player on your hands.

I honestly think they're as stumped by it as we are. Because that's something that'll show up in practice pretty easily and they know that it's pretty much a problem that makes the kid unplayable.
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Yeah - I think the discussion on the original subject ran its course.

"Is Lawrence overrated?"

"Well duh"

"Oh...moving on then"
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Basing it more on the knowledge the Chiefs were clearly trying to move up for someone with multiple teams but it never materialized.
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If it was Mazi Smith, as suggested, that wouldn't have worked out much better.
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I just don't understand how it's STILL a thing? It seems pretty easy to correct, like.....what are we missing here?
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