Originally Posted by Why Not?:
Now this is a post that actually did age well, unfortunately. Yeah, I'll always love Andy for the title and the overall run and he's obviously a HOFer, but it will be impossible to tell his story without including the brutal collapses and such.
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
This is just fucking baffling that people are putting the lions share of the blame on Reid for yesterday.
Mahomes is the one that cost us at least 3 points at the end of the half.
Mahomes is the one that threw a god awful interception to a DT on a fucking RPO.
Mahomes is the one that killed our 1st and goal from the 5 drive with inexcusable decision after inexcusable decision.
Reid did what everyone here screeched at him to do. He left it almost entirely in Mahomes hands.
I mean we’re not in the position for Mahomes to cost us 3 pts. at the end of the half if Andy kicks the FG…ya know, not let the QB dictate what happens. [Reply]
If you're the head coach, and your team loses a home playoff game where it was up 21-3, you're telling me that you would not own that? What do you think "head coach" means? Go ask Andy, I promise you he would own it. Think I made it pretty clear that I love the guy and all but this was a collapse and that's on the coach and the QB. That's how it works in football. They get the lion's share of the glory when things go right and they eat most of the shit when they don't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
I mean we’re not in the position for Mahomes to cost us 3 pts. at the end of the half if Andy kicks the FG…ya know, not let the QB dictate what happens.
When he does that he gets screeched at for taking the ball out of Mahomes hands and not giving him another chance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
I mean we’re not in the position for Mahomes to cost us 3 pts. at the end of the half if Andy kicks the FG…ya know, not let the QB dictate what happens.
Yep. He had already let Mahomes take a shot. Kick it on 2nd down and get 3... Then at the end of the game, run the damn ball 3 or maybe even 4 times if u have to in order to win it in regulation. Just incredibly bad coaching decisions at critical times. [Reply]
Andy's post game just pissed me off. They need to add an asst coach that will change up calls to what defenses are giving us. Same with defense. We do not adjust.
They were keeping an extra guy on the line for protection is why we couldn't get snacks? Then what were our safeties doing? We had a we had 3 man advantage and did not cover anyone.
Better play calls? Why go away from what was working all game.
Andy is great, but he helped lose this game.
Cut the fat off this team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
This is just ****ing baffling that people are putting the lions share of the blame on Reid for yesterday.
Mahomes is the one that cost us at least 3 points at the end of the half.
Mahomes is the one that threw a god awful interception to a DT on a ****ing RPO.
Mahomes is the one that killed our 1st and goal from the 5 drive with inexcusable decision after inexcusable decision.
Reid did what everyone here screeched at him to do. He left it almost entirely in Mahomes hands.
Andy Reid is the one who pissed away the timeout we needed with 5 seconds, because throwing the red flag is too hard.
Andy Reid is the one who decided to try another play with 5 seconds and no timeout.
Andy Reid is the one who called the play with not all patterns to the ez, and worse, with TYREEK FUCKING HILL running in the backfield and not the endzone. Hill being out there is the only reason Mahomes tried it. Why Hill was not already running a route into the endzone is unknown, and inexcusable.
Andy Reid is the one who pulled McKinnon out of the game when he was running well.
Andy Reid is the one who called that abortion of a series at the end of regulation. Handoff to eat timeout and burn clock? Sounds hard. Let's get Pat stripsacked for huge loss.
Like it or not, Andy owns a lot of this shitshow.
Demarcus Robinson on the field in OT? WHAT? Dude didn't get a single target all game and in the crunch this us your go to guy on the play?
Lmmfgdao. No.
Reid now owns ANOTHER 18 point collapse in the playoffs, with a healthy Mahomes. 50/50 on SB appearances and wins.
For 4 straight title games, 1 ring out of that is simply disappointing. He's the head coach. He has to own it.
If it weren't for situational football, Andy has as many rings as Belichick. Easy.
There is a reason he’s been to 8 championship games and has only 1 ring. I really thought Patrick could hide his flaws but we saw some of the old Andy yesterday [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quitter:
There is a reason he’s been to 8 championship games and has only 1 ring. I really thought Patrick could hide his flaws but we saw some of the old Andy yesterday
This loss is 80% on Patrick.
At one point he couldn't hit a fucking flat route to Clyde. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quitter:
And you don’t think Andy saw the whole second half he didn’t have it. You run the ball.
Yep. Pat shares the majority of the blame, but it's not quite 80% imo. This was a full team collapse. From Jones not finishing on his sacks, to Andy's playcalling, to Hill and Kelce not pulling in tough catches they were capable of pulling in. Truth be told a lot of people on this team had a chance to make the play that could have won it for us, but in the end -- they didn't.
In regards to Andy, you can't look at the scheme the Bengals were running and it least try a drive made up of runs in a power formation. Andy's playcall at the end of the half, while on Pat's shoulders to throw it away, also deserves scrutiny (and he's admitted as much).
You can only blow so many 18 point playoff leads before some of the blame gets tagged to you.
Still wouldn't trade him for the world, tho [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
Andy Reid is the one who pissed away the timeout we needed with 5 seconds, because throwing the red flag is too hard.
Andy Reid is the one who decided to try another play with 5 seconds and no timeout.
Andy Reid is the one who called the play with not all patterns to the ez, and worse, with TYREEK ****ING HILL running in the backfield and not the endzone. Hill being out there is the only reason Mahomes tried it. Why Hill was not already running a route into the endzone is unknown, and inexcusable.
Andy Reid is the one who pulled McKinnon out of the game when he was running well.
Andy Reid is the one who called that abortion of a series at the end of regulation. Handoff to eat timeout and burn clock? Sounds hard. Let's get Pat stripsacked for huge loss.
Like it or not, Andy owns a lot of this shitshow.
Demarcus Robinson on the field in OT? WHAT? Dude didn't get a single target all game and in the crunch this us your go to guy on the play?
Lmmfgdao. No.
Reid now owns ANOTHER 18 point collapse in the playoffs, with a healthy Mahomes. 50/50 on SB appearances and wins.
For 4 straight title games, 1 ring out of that is simply disappointing. He's the head coach. He has to own it.
If it weren't for situational football, Andy has as many rings as Belichick. Easy.
It's the bane of Andy's existence.
Sorry, but there’s not a world where Reid should have 5 more rings due to situational football.
He should probably have at least 1 more ring with Mahomes, but that’s about it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
Andy Reid is the one who pissed away the timeout we needed with 5 seconds, because throwing the red flag is too hard.
Andy Reid is the one who decided to try another play with 5 seconds and no timeout.
Andy Reid is the one who called the play with not all patterns to the ez, and worse, with TYREEK ****ING HILL running in the backfield and not the endzone. Hill being out there is the only reason Mahomes tried it. Why Hill was not already running a route into the endzone is unknown, and inexcusable.
Andy Reid is the one who pulled McKinnon out of the game when he was running well.
Andy Reid is the one who called that abortion of a series at the end of regulation. Handoff to eat timeout and burn clock? Sounds hard. Let's get Pat stripsacked for huge loss.
Like it or not, Andy owns a lot of this shitshow.
Demarcus Robinson on the field in OT? WHAT? Dude didn't get a single target all game and in the crunch this us your go to guy on the play?
Lmmfgdao. No.
Reid now owns ANOTHER 18 point collapse in the playoffs, with a healthy Mahomes. 50/50 on SB appearances and wins.
For 4 straight title games, 1 ring out of that is simply disappointing. He's the head coach. He has to own it.
If it weren't for situational football, Andy has as many rings as Belichick. Easy.
It's the bane of Andy's existence.
Harsh but great. Don’t agree about rings count tho [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
This loss is 80% on Patrick.
At one point he couldn't hit a fucking flat route to Clyde.
Yeah, Pat gacked this one.
But Andy didn't help. McKinnon wasn't just getting 5 yards/carry on average - he was just flat getting 5 yards damn near every carry. I mean he was gouging Cincinnati and the Bengals did nothing to adjust.
Andy did what dozens if not hundreds of managers/coaches have done before him. He fell victim to 'Great Man Syndrome'. He was convinced his guy would figure it out before it was too late. He was certain that when the chips were down, his star player would stand tall and make the one play he needed to make to pull it from the fire.
This time he was wrong. I understand why he did it, but it was a choice Andy made and one he has to live with.
It was a rough game by the two guys we could least afford having bad games. One or the other could struggle, but when Mahomes is off his game and Reid isn't reacting aggressively out there, we're just gonna lose. It is what it is. [Reply]
