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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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RustShack 11:27 AM 08-09-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
By in touch, you mean just repeats anything/everything that gets spammed around and hopes something sticks?
He also spins everything he can has a positive for the PAC.
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KChiefs1 11:28 AM 08-09-2022
Canzano: Pac-12 Conference gets a much-needed win

"Our strategy is sound."
Spoiler!



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Spicy McHaggis 11:34 AM 08-09-2022
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
WTF is he talking about with "P2 gets the tourney" over and over and over?

Is he just saying the "power 2" gets a bunch of teams into March Madness?
I have no idea what he's on about there.

If his other point is that the B1G could add KU and have their share be equivalent or slightly less than their respective revenue add to the conference's value, he's probably right.

I don't think there are any schools outside the SEC and B1G that wouldn't take a substantially reduced share % in exchange for that golden ticket.

It's not going to happen. If they have 4 spots to fill there are a number of higher value targets that would need to say no before that sort of discussion even occurred.
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BWillie 11:37 AM 08-09-2022
Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis:
I have no idea what he's on about there.

If his other point is that the B1G could add KU and have their share be equivalent or slightly less than their respective revenue add to the conference's value, he's probably right.

I don't think there are any schools outside the SEC and B1G that wouldn't take a substantially reduced share % in exchange for that golden ticket.

It's not going to happen. If they have 4 spots to fill there are a number of higher value targets that would need to say no before that sort of discussion even occurred.
If the Big10 and SEC do remove themselves from the NCAA and have their own postseason tournament for basketball....then KUs value skyrockets. The problem is there isn't enough teams to make it work for the common fan. Common fans need Shithead State vs LSU for some reason to watch.
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KChiefs1 02:30 PM 08-09-2022
With ESPN reportedly out, here's how your college football TV routine will change with Big Ten's brewing media deal
Spoiler!


https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-how-y...025521582.html


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lawrenceRaider 06:28 PM 08-09-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
If the Big10 and SEC do remove themselves from the NCAA and have their own postseason tournament for basketball....then KUs value skyrockets. The problem is there isn't enough teams to make it work for the common fan. Common fans need Shithead State vs LSU for some reason to watch.
The NCAA tournament is the most popular sports event.

People who root for underdogs root for big upsets, and get at least one most years. The unpredictable nature of it makes for amazing TV.
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KChiefs1 03:34 PM 08-13-2022
Pat Forde: SEC Commissioner Says It’s Time to Take a ‘Fresh Look’ at March Madness

Greg Sankey potentially has his eyes on expanding the 68-team men’s field.
Spoiler!



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PHOG 03:42 PM 08-13-2022
Translation: SEC SEC SEC
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MarkDavis'Haircut 04:31 PM 08-13-2022
Sankey is ridiculous.

68 is more than enough. Extend it to 96 and the 97th team starts whining.
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BWillie 05:12 PM 08-13-2022
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
Sankey is ridiculous.

68 is more than enough. Extend it to 96 and the 97th team starts whining.
Yeah its ridiculously too big now. If they do make more teams in it then protected top seeds sure as shit better get home games up to a certain point.
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RustShack 05:18 PM 08-13-2022
If it expands I’d do two auto bids. I’m 100% fine with how it is now and would leave it, but I might add a second auto bid per conference. One as is for tournament champions, and the other for conference champions. That wouldn’t change anything at the P6 level, but would help some from other conferences who have their bids “stolen” by an upset in the conference tournament.

But obviously Sankey wants more SEC schools in March Madness, so he wouldn’t agree to that. Same reason he wants the football playoffs expanded(as we all do, but he just wants more SEC schools in there).
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Chief Pagan 06:43 PM 08-13-2022
Put 128 teams in and every match up is a win three out of five series and start March Madness in November.

What's not to like?
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Pepe Silvia 07:52 PM 08-13-2022
Put in 1,000 teams.
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Saulbadguy 08:37 PM 08-13-2022
idc about any of this, but I apologize for making an AIDS joke 11 years ago.
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Bearcat 08:54 PM 08-13-2022
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
idc about any of this, but I apologize for making an AIDS joke 11 years ago.
To be fair, the old one was before we could ban people from threads, so the comment is basically true in that it couldn't even protect itself from the common troll.
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