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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 07:41 PM 07-19-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Besides, he forgot that 2020 title.
Kansas claims it?
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lawrenceRaider 10:12 AM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
Kansas claims it?
No. But it's fun to muck about with the rubes that root for Mizzou, KSU, and other lesser types.
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lawrenceRaider 10:13 AM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Let me help you make sense of it.

Raiders fans fuck their relatives.

You're welcome.
Yeah, your projection of the behavior of Mizzou fans, and some KC Chiefs fans, onto other fan bases is hysterical.
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lawrenceRaider 10:15 AM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:

The same sorry ass 15 seed defeatee beat the champions at the Phog?
Keep flogging that dead pony.

Kansas was short handed and it was the regular season. I guess that's all that matters to you rather than titles? Except you now don't even have that overall wins #1 spot either.

Honestly you are starting to sound like a fan of a lesser program.
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Rams Fan 01:02 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Keep flogging that dead pony.

Kansas was short handed and it was the regular season. I guess that's all that matters to you rather than titles? Except you now don't even have that overall wins #1 spot either.

Honestly you are starting to sound like a fan of a lesser program.
No, I just don’t understand your mental gymnastics. By your logic, Bradley>Kansas, right? And UNI>Kansas? Evansville>Kentucky, too. And Stephen F. Austin>Duke.

If we’re using the short handed excuse, Grady, Wheeler; and Washington were all playing hurt from January on(including the Kansas game). But I won’t do that. Losing to St. Peter’s should have never happened.

Last I checked, Kentucky has more titles than Kansas, too, by the way.

Enjoy the fun while you still can before the sanctions come and continue gloating (as you should). Doesn’t bother me.

Also, a lesser program wouldn’t have a better head to head since Calipari’s been there vs Kansas (5 wins for UK vs 4 for Kansas).
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Rams Fan 01:11 PM 07-20-2022
But you’re right, natty outweighs regular season success. I just tried bringing it up as a red herring. :-)

IU fans do the same shit with 2011-2012.
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Prison Bitch 01:14 PM 07-20-2022
8 titles lulz. Congrats on winning three titles when there were 8 team tourneys, win one to go to the FF (jerkoff motion)

In the modern era when the tourney expanded to 64 in 1985, we each have 3.
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Rams Fan 01:25 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
8 titles lulz. Congrats on winning three titles when there were 8 team tourneys, win one to go to the FF (jerkoff motion)

In the modern era when the tourney expanded to 64 in 1985, we each have 3.
Does Duke go back to pre-K levels of success?

Kansas, Kentucky, UNC have all won titles with multiple coaches (as has UCLA and Villanova).
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Pablo 01:31 PM 07-20-2022
Do you think the CCC moniker is apt or unfair from your kentucky brethren?
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Rams Fan 01:36 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Do you think the CCC moniker is apt or unfair from your kentucky brethren?
Unfair. Cal’s actually a very good coach, both recruiting wise and coaching on the court wise.

Look at what he did with his early UMass teams, what he’s done at Memphis, and at Kentucky overall.

If coaches won only by talent, how come Memphis hasn’t done anything with Penny?
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Pablo 03:44 PM 07-20-2022
I just saw a Barstool article where a Kentucky fan is thrashing a mutt football player and their funny program. I enjoyed it.

Titled 'It's Honestly Sad Listening To This Mizzou DB Desperately Try To Create A Rivalry By Ranting About How Much He Hates Kentucky'

Originally Posted by :
Welp, I didn't think I'd be blogging about Mizzou football, but thanks to Martez Manuel here we are. Let's get right to the point. Mizzou doesn't matter. It's to the point where if Kentucky loses to Missouri, it's a backbreaking season loss. We own Missouri. 8-4 overall against them. Won 6 of the last 7. We've reached a point where if you put Missouri above Kentucky in any season predictions you have a hot take.
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...hates-kentucky
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lawrenceRaider 04:36 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
Unfair. Cal’s actually a very good coach, both recruiting wise and coaching on the court wise.

Look at what he did with his early UMass teams, what he’s done at Memphis, and at Kentucky overall.

If coaches won only by talent, how come Memphis hasn’t done anything with Penny?
Cal's one shining moment? Overwhelming talent won the day.

In years where his talent collection is good, but not great, he loses early.
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lawrenceRaider 04:38 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
Does Duke go back to pre-K levels of success?

Kansas, Kentucky, UNC have all won titles with multiple coaches (as has UCLA and Villanova).
It will be very interesting to see how Duke fairs post K.

Duke fans would have us believe K has been a mere figurehead for years.
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Rams Fan 05:02 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Cal's one shining moment? Overwhelming talent won the day.

In years where his talent collection is good, but not great, he loses early.
He’s made it to the Elite 8 in 7/12 tournaments at UK.

For reference, Self has made the Elite 8 9 times since he’s been at Kansas and the Final 4 as many time as Cal has.

So, does that mean Self loses early, too?
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Chief Pagan 05:09 PM 07-20-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
It will be very interesting to see how Duke fairs post K.

Duke fans would have us believe K has been a mere figurehead for years.
Even if he was just a figurehead, was it the Duke brand or coach K brand bringing in players?

Guess we will find out.
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