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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 08:34 AM 06-03-2021
Nothing has changed . The 11 million shares are not new.


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KChiefs1 08:36 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Bye AMC!

Buy AMC!
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Hog's Gone Fishin 08:44 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Buy AMC!
It's gotta be nerve racking knowing for every dollar the stock moves your balance moves by $16,400

I'd hate to be you!

Wait, I mean't to say I WISH I WERE YOU!
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KChiefs1 09:04 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
It's gotta be nerve racking knowing for every dollar the stock moves your balance moves by $16,400

I'd hate to be you!

Wait, I mean't to say I WISH I WERE YOU!

It’s very difficult when you know it drops that thousands of dollars are on the line. I’m conservative anyway & my inner voice is telling me to sell but I know there are dips every now & then.

I’m on the edge that’s for damn sure.
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MTG#10 09:15 AM 06-03-2021
Fuck...
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TwistedChief 09:15 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
AMC diluted and fucked its shareholders yet again, starting to tank. That CEO is a slimeball.
Are they really fucking their long term shareholders by doing a capital raise at artificially high valuations?

I don't understand.

Have you taken a corporate finance class? When the cost of issuing equity is cheap and the cost of debt is expensive, you absolutely issue equity, buy back debt, and delever your enterprise.

The retail community is giving the company a gift.
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kstater 09:23 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Are they really fucking their long term shareholders by doing a capital raise at artificially high valuations?



I don't understand.



Have you taken a corporate finance class? When the cost of issuing equity is cheap and the cost of debt is expensive, you absolutely issue equity, buy back debt, and delever your enterprise.



The retail community is giving the company a gift.
It's almost as if they're a shit run company that was hemorrhaging.

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MTG#10 09:37 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Are they really ****ing their long term shareholders by doing a capital raise at artificially high valuations?

I don't understand.

Have you taken a corporate finance class? When the cost of issuing equity is cheap and the cost of debt is expensive, you absolutely issue equity, buy back debt, and delever your enterprise.

The retail community is giving the company a gift.
I understand it's smart for the company. But the timing is shit, especially after he promised no more dilution during the rest of the calendar year. The constant dilution coupled with the huge bonuses handed out to the top brass is what originally soured me on the stock. But supposedly this was actually done in April before the share dilution promise was made.
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Buehler445 09:39 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Are they really fucking their long term shareholders by doing a capital raise at artificially high valuations?

I don't understand.

Have you taken a corporate finance class? When the cost of issuing equity is cheap and the cost of debt is expensive, you absolutely issue equity, buy back debt, and delever your enterprise.

The retail community is giving the company a gift.
Absolutely. It's a brilliant move that they actually have the balls to execute.

However, I read (I think, it was a quick skim) that they're planning on leveraging that money to buy out new theater leases. Presumably trying to buy out marketshare for the recovery rather than pay down debt. Gotta give them credit for being bold. Not sure I'd do it, but it's a bold strategy.
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TwistedChief 09:46 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
I understand it's smart for the company. But the timing is shit, especially after he promised no more dilution during the rest of the calendar year. The constant dilution coupled with the huge bonuses handed out to the top brass is what originally soured me on the stock. But apparently this was actually done in April before the share dilution promise was made.
Regardless of what the guy may have promised (or more likely indicated as an intention), when the market moves like it has, no rational person would assume that it's some binding commitment.

I don't follow this stuff at all as it's just to the point of complete ridiculousness, but I read the below this morning:

Originally Posted by :
The company “highlights first and foremost in their disclosures that the proceeds would be used for debt reduction, a change from recent disclosures which focused on acquisitions,” they said.

AMC’s bonds were among the top gainers in the U.S. high-yield market on Thursday, setting fresh highs. Its second-lien bonds due 2026 rose 1.5 cents on the dollar to a new high of 99, according to Trace bonds trading data. AMC’s senior subordinated notes due 2025 also rose 1.75 cents to 81.75.

AMC “had an unsustainable debt level and is chipping away by issuing equity, said Michael Pachter of Wedbush Securities in an email. “I think that’s smart to ensure that they remain healthy so they can thrive as things return to normal.”

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KChiefs1 09:59 AM 06-03-2021
Bouncing back.
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Rain Man 11:07 AM 06-03-2021
My meme stock experience has swung from positive to negative. But I have faith in the masses.
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crispystl 11:15 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
My meme stock experience has swung from positive to negative. But I have faith in the masses.
I mean if you can't trust social media who can you trust these days?
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KChiefs1 11:25 AM 06-03-2021
AMC roaring back!
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KChiefs1 11:25 AM 06-03-2021
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
My meme stock experience has swung from positive to negative. But I have faith in the masses.

Me too.

It’s like riding the wildest roller coaster ever made. Fun & scary.
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