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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Discuss Thrower 10:01 PM 09-02-2021
The remainder of the Big XII should join with the Big East by either dropping their football programs to FCS or somehow convincing Butler, Georgetown and Villanova to move up.
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ROYC75 11:31 PM 09-02-2021
I'm a tell'n ya, I say tell'n all my CP brothers & sisters, the 12, I say the Big 12, err Big 8 I say is expanding to the Big 12 again!

Damn ding dongs don't get it, just don't get it I say!. They just need to go with 4 more, it's just a matter of time many when many conferences will go to 16 teams just like the SEC did. Why? TV Contracts, gate draws. It's coming boys, your top major conferences in the next 20 years will be 16 team conferences.

The B12 made concessions on travel once with WV, reason too I say go with the 8 teams I mentioned, you get multiple games in an area for traveling during basketball season. Plus the pods I mentioned puts in you with some in state rivalries and closer traveling.

I just see more 16 teams conferences coming down the road!.
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Old Dog 09:51 AM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by TribalElder:
:-) KU fans still trying to hate on MU and it's a decade after they left the Big howevermany
Pot/kettle (and I'm not a fan of either)
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RustShack 12:54 PM 09-03-2021
BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston to the Big12 is basically a done deal.

It will be interesting to see if the schools are willing to sign a new GoR, or if they leave it open for when the B1G/PAC negations start in a few years.

ESPN may be a little more willing to keep payments higher than expected, or if they want a battle in court to keep Oklahoma and Texas in the Big12 through 2025/damages/breaking the bylaws/breaking the GoR/and so on.
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ChiefsCountry 01:05 PM 09-03-2021
Cincinnati, West Virginia, UCF, Iowa St, Kansas St, and Kansas the new Big 12 East. BYU, Okie State, Tech, Baylor, TCU and Houston the new Big 12 West.
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sedated 01:12 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston to the Big12 is basically a done deal.
"Basically a done deal" has been so many times in this thread its going to start showing up in Google searches
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Sassy Squatch 01:28 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by sedated:
"Basically a done deal" has been so many times in this thread its going to start showing up in Google searches
At the very least, they're getting invited.
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ChiTown 03:26 PM 09-03-2021

UCF, UH, BYU & Cincy expected to apply for Big 12 membership next week & league presidents have the votes to admit them next Friday, sources tell me & @ByPatForde.

Plan is to join in 2023, conceivably before OU & Texas leave, to create a 14-team league.https://t.co/okf7WGs0Tk

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) September 3, 2021

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Ocotillo 04:00 PM 09-03-2021

�� Statement from the Big 12 Conferencehttps://t.co/JreaTDu3hU

— Big 12 Conference (@Big12Conference) September 3, 2021

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BWillie 04:57 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.
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ROYC75 05:01 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.
They are not! Get off that damn horse, it's going to stop at the Missouri River and not cross it!
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TribalElder 05:14 PM 09-03-2021
News just mentioned that KU plays football tonight

I didnt' realize they had a varsity team
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Pitt Gorilla 05:20 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Better find one more because KU is going to the B1G.

BYU is a pretty good get though, TBH.
Just saw an article stating that the Big 10 was considering expansion prior to the new "agreement" among conferences. They were no longer looking to expand.
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tredadda 05:22 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Just saw an article stating that the Big 10 was considering expansion prior to the new "agreement" among conferences. They were no longer looking to expand.
They honestly have no reason to expand.
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ROYC75 05:24 PM 09-03-2021
Originally Posted by TribalElder:
News just mentioned that KU plays football tonight

I didnt' realize they had a varsity team
Going to take a couple of more years, but I do believe they have the coach to get us back to the Mangino days!
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