Looking back at the recent history of first round drafted left tackles, you have to go back to Trent Williams, drafted in 2010, as a left tackle who ended up being elite.
Penei Sewell was quickly moved to right tackle. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This offense explodes if pass protection is just a little bit better.
And goddamnit am I still pissed that Watson dropped this perfect pass. Hollywood catches it.
Mahomes had a couple great plays wasted against the Raiders
Nearly perfect throw to Watson -- then hangs in vs. a blitz to give Kelce a shot in the end zone, but Kelce improvs just as 15 looks to him pic.twitter.com/AfJwc0zQ1K
Why are we spending pages and pages bloviating about a player by people whom most had never even heard or thought of 2 weeks prior?
JFC, guys. Let's get some competent level LT play, see how the season ends up, and go from there.
I’m kinda surprised he wasn’t on someone’s radar. Bahktiari was talked about at length on here and DJ was also on a recovery timeline someone usually mentions to get on our radar.
It was a nice surprise when we signed him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Looking back at the recent history of first round drafted left tackles, you have to go back to Trent Williams, drafted in 2010, as a left tackle who ended up being elite.
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
The plays are there and we will make them.
Again, we are whinging about a QB who threw for 300 1/0.
We are the best third down team in the league.
We will be fine. Last year our problems looked unfixable.
Agree with this 100%.
Our problem is protection. Starting to really believe all of Mahomes issues stem from the O-Line having holes that only Pat’s Superman routine can mask/overcome. We have players open at all levels repeatedly but Mahomes is running for his life. Give the man some time and he’s going to dissect people. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
That's easy to say and all, but nobody really wants to trade a high first for 30 something.
And this team has some holes, and is about to have several more.
You can't just give the next two drafts away.
Because CEH and FAU have been great?
I don't understand why people are so afraid to give up a couple of first round picks to get a stud LT, when Karlaftis is the only late 1st round pick that contributes. McDuffie is really a mid first round pick, so I am not counting him.
We didn't have a first round pick in 18, 19, or 21, and we have been in 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them.
We can give up a couple of first round picks to move up and get a guy and still be Super Bowl favorites. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Because CEH and FAU have been great?
I don't understand why people are so afraid to give up a couple of first round picks to get a stud LT, when Karlaftis is the only late 1st round pick that contributes. McDuffie is really a mid first round pick, so I am not counting him.
We didn't have a first round pick in 18, 19, or 21, and we have been in 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them.
We can give up a couple of first round picks to move up and get a guy and still be Super Bowl favorites.
By that logic, why would they trade up? They'd be giving up MULTIPLE picks for another CEH or FAU. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Looking back at the recent history of first round drafted left tackles, you have to go back to Trent Williams, drafted in 2010, as a left tackle who ended up being elite.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That's the problem with trading up in the first round. Look at all the guys we've talked about in the 20-32 range of the draft the last 4 or 5 years and how many of them actually became adequate left tackles. A good portion aren't even playing tackle anymore. That's the "floor" for a draft pick.
As long as we keep winning, which will be as long as Mahomes is around, we are never getting back into the top 15 of the draft.
We need all those 1st-3rd round picks to be successful. We have to draft WR/DL/OL in those slots to get the most bang for the draft buck.
Spending money in FA for a LT is really our only realistic option. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Looking back at the recent history of first round drafted left tackles, you have to go back to Trent Williams, drafted in 2010, as a left tackle who ended up being elite.
Penei Sewell was quickly moved to right tackle.
Huh?
Laremy Tunsil (2016 - Rd 1, Pk 13) - elite
Christian Darrisaw (2021 - Rd 1, Pk 23) - elite or at least very near it, health has taken him down for some time in 2023 and this year though
Tyron Smith (2011 - Rd 1, Pk 9) - once elite, health of late is an issue but that doesn't discount the first 8-9 years of his career
Rashawn Slater (2021 - Rd 1, Pk 13) - elite, missed most of his sophomore year but has been one of the best outside of that
Ronnie Stanley (2016 - Rd 1, Pk 6) - elite early on but seems like health issues are mounting, feel free to chop him off if you want
Tristan Wirfs (2020 - Rd 1, Pk 13) - elite at both RT and LT. He may have spent the first 3 years at RT but he's been even better since moving to LT. Sewell probably does the same when Decker moves on and you could throw him up here then.
Kolton Miller (2018 - Rd 1, Pk 15) - elite. He might play for a rival but he's one of the top few pass protectors at LT in the NFL.
There are a few others that aren't elite but are definitely solid plus players. [Reply]
:-) I love the whinging about how expensive any trade up will be. Yeah, no fucking shit, we're seeing first hand exactly why this year. One of the best QB talents in history has regressed horribly in large part because the LT play has been so shit, and yet the solution for some of you guys is to desperately hope they sign Humphries to a long term deal before he's even played a single snap?!?
Fuck bringing in another broke dick veteran. Fuck putting all the eggs into hoping that Kingsley can develop past completely worthless. Fuck signing one of the mid free agents to top tier money. Get the fuck up there and fix this shit once and for all. [Reply]
